Re: [netconf] Benjamin Kaduk's Discuss on draft-ietf-netconf-subscribed-notifications-23: (with DISCUSS)

"Eric Voit (evoit)" <evoit@cisco.com> Mon, 29 April 2019 19:31 UTC

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From: "Eric Voit (evoit)" <evoit@cisco.com>
To: Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu>
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Thread-Topic: Benjamin Kaduk's Discuss on draft-ietf-netconf-subscribed-notifications-23: (with DISCUSS)
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Subject: Re: [netconf] Benjamin Kaduk's Discuss on draft-ietf-netconf-subscribed-notifications-23: (with DISCUSS)
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ipr="pre5378Trust200902"

change made and uploaded as v24

Eric

> From: Benjamin Kaduk, April 29, 2019 2:25 PM
> 
> On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 05:58:19PM +0000, Eric Voit (evoit) wrote:
> > Hi Benjamin,
> >
> > I think you are asking why the following boilerplate text wasn't included...
> >
> >    This document may contain material from IETF Documents or IETF
> >    Contributions published or made publicly available before November
> >    10, 2008.  The person(s) controlling the copyright in some of this
> >    material may not have granted the IETF Trust the right to allow
> >    modifications of such material outside the IETF Standards Process.
> >    Without obtaining an adequate license from the person(s) controlling
> >    the copyright in such materials, this document may not be modified
> >    outside the IETF Standards Process, and derivative works of it may
> >    not be created outside the IETF Standards Process, except to format
> >    it for publication as an RFC or to translate it into languages other
> >    than English.
> 
> Exactly so.
> 
> >
> > This was likely an oversight during the initial author's submission.  If this text
> was included and uploaded as a -24 update, would that cover your concern?
> 
> Definitely.
> (Note that there's an XML keyword for this; IIRC, <rfc [...]
> ipr="pre5378Trust200902">.)
> 
> > BTW: the same boilerplate update should also be made to
> > draft-ietf-netconf-netconf-event-notification  and
> > draft-ietf-netconf-restconf-notif
> 
> Thanks for spotting those early!
> 
> -Ben
> 
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Benjamin Kaduk via Datatracker <noreply@ietf.org>
> > > Subject: Benjamin Kaduk's Discuss on draft-ietf-netconf-subscribed-
> > > notifications-23: (with DISCUSS)
> > >
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > --
> > > DISCUSS:
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > --
> > >
> > > [putting this out early in the hopes it can be resolved quickly; I'm
> > > just starting to review the document.]
> > >
> > > This document started life as a rfc5277bis, published in July 2008,
> > > before RFC
> > > 5378 (BCP 78) was published in November of 2008.  If we are using
> > > any text from RFC 5277 and did not gain the additional rights
> > > declaration from the authors of that document, this document needs
> > > to use a different boilerplate text (the "pre- 2008" text).  I look
> > > at the sibling document draft-ietf-netfonf-yang-push of this
> > > document, which does use the pre-2008 boilerplate, and am having a hard
> time understanding why this document does not also have the pre-2008
> boilerplate.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >