Re: [netext] Review: draft-ietf-netext-pd-pmip-10
Michał Hoeft <michal.hoeft@gmail.com> Tue, 22 October 2013 06:41 UTC
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Subject: Re: [netext] Review: draft-ietf-netext-pd-pmip-10
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Hi Sri, Carlos Thank you very much for answers and clarification. Now, I see your point of view. Best regards Michal 2013/10/21 Carlos Jesús Bernardos Cano <cjbc@it.uc3m.es> > Hi Sri, Michal, > > Thanks a lot Michar for your comments. > > Adding some additional comments inline below. > > On Fri, 2013-10-18 at 18:05 +0000, Sri Gundavelli (sgundave) wrote: > > Hi Michal, > > > > > > Thanks for the good review comments... some comments inline ..Carlos can > > add/clarify more ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Michał Hoeft <michal.hoeft@gmail.com> > > Date: Friday, October 18, 2013 3:23 AM > > To: "netext@ietf.org" <netext@ietf.org> > > Subject: [netext] Review: draft-ietf-netext-pd-pmip-10 > > > > > > > > Hello > > > > I am a researcher at Gdańsk University of Technology interested in > > mobility management protocols, especially in PMIPv6. I would be very > > thankful if authors of draft-ietf-netext-pd-pmip-10 could clarify my > > doubt. > > > > I wonder, why Section 3 is not more general, why only three deployment > > models are described in the draft and titled after DR location. > > It seams that, DR don't have to be co-located with LMA (Section > > 3.2.2). In this case, it can be run on an external server and it does > > not change message flow. > > > > It is similar in Section 3.2.1, in which LMA provides to DR prefixes > > by means of DMNP option. It is very interesting protocol integrating > > solution. > > > > > > [Sri] We covered the key deployment models. DR function can be on the > > located in the home network and that is typically on the LMA. It can > > be certainly outside the LMA, but there is some interworking needed > > between the DR and the LMA and is out of scope for this spec. We did > > not explicitly cover that scenario, but a deployment can certainly > > make that work. But, that has no impact on the wire protocol between > > the LMA and MAG. We can add a note that this is certainly allowed. > > Carlos - Agree ? > > > [Carlos] Yes, agree. We'll add a note in -11. > > > > > However I'm a little confused considering implementation of DR > > co-located with MAG. I can imagine a deployment model, in that DR is > > co-located with MAG but obtains prefixes using more common methods > > e.g. Delegated-IPv6-Prefix AVP (RFC 4818). Especially, if it could be > > aggregated with other MAG-to-HAAA AVPs (RFC 5779). > > > > > > [Sri] From protocol point of view, MAG can include the DMNP option, > > with ALL_ZERO or with a specific value. MAG can learn about those > > prefixes, via AAA (with DMNP AVP's), local config, DHCP interworking > > and request the same. MAG has the ability to populate the DMNP option > > with a specific prefix value, or a 0 to allow LMA to do the > > allocation. If you see the protocol section, which is more generic, > > you will see this. > > > > > > > > In my opinion, titles of Sections 3.2.1-3.2.3 should be changed to be > > more accurate and to describe MAG-LMA interaction instead of DR > > co-location. For example: > > > > 3.2.1 DMNP provided during registration > > > > 3.2.2 Separated AR and DMNP registration > > 3.2.3 Aggregated AR and DMNP registration > > > > > > [Sri] That is certainly one way to drafting and is fine. What is there > > in section 3.2.1 to 3.2.1 are more covered along the lines of popular > > deployment model, but the protocol section is more generic. The key > > point is that protocol semantic clearly allow the negotiation in a > > flexible manner covering all these variations. > > > > > > > > > > In accordance with RFC5213, PBU/PBA messages have few mandatory > > options (MNI,HNP,HI,AAT). Although some of them are easy to set (MNI > > with MNI of AR, HI with 5. Handoff state not changed, AAT depends on > > access technology - please correct me if I'm wrong), I see the problem > > with HNP in separate AD and DMNP registration scenario. In my opinion, > > it should be defined how to fill this option - either ALL_ZERO or HNP > > of AR. > > > > > > > > [Sri] Carlos can add. But, the protocol is not requiring changes to > > the base options. In all the scenarios covered by 5213, 5844, this > > allows a MAG to request a additional prefix set, for delegation, as > > supposed to hosting them on the MN-AR link. > > > > > > > [Carlos] Yes, I think it is better not to explicitly add that, so we > avoid not covering some potential case. As long as what we have in the > text is clear and allow for implementation of the spec, I think it is > better not to add more text. > > > > > > Please, consider also revision of following typos: > > > > > > page 4: > > > > is enabled is for => is enabled for > > [Carlos] Fixed in -11, thanks. > > > > page 7,9: > > > > proxy binding acknowledgment => Proxy Binding Acknowledgment > > proxy binding update => Proxy Binding Update > > [Carlos] I think the RFC Editor prefers these terms to be in lowercase, > with the exception of the first time they appear and the acronym is > introduced. > > > > page 9. Figure 2: Message 4): > > PBU =>PBU(DMNP) > > [Carlos] Here the intention is to highlight that the prefix is delegated > by the LMA and conveyed back in the PBA. Maybe we can explicitly show > that the DMNP option is present but with an ALL_ZERO value. > > > > page 11: > > > > from the mobile router from registering => from the mobile router for > > registering > > > [Carlos] Fixed in -11, thanks. > > > > > If you need any additional detail on my comments, please, do not > > hesitate to contact me. > > Again, thanks! > > Carlos > > > > > > Best regards > > > > Michal Hoeft > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > netext mailing list > > netext@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netext > > >
- [netext] Review: draft-ietf-netext-pd-pmip-10 Michał Hoeft
- Re: [netext] Review: draft-ietf-netext-pd-pmip-10 Sri Gundavelli (sgundave)
- Re: [netext] Review: draft-ietf-netext-pd-pmip-10 Carlos Jesús Bernardos Cano
- Re: [netext] Review: draft-ietf-netext-pd-pmip-10 Michał Hoeft