Re: [netmod] Ben Campbell's No Objection on draft-ietf-netmod-routing-cfg-24: (with COMMENT)

Ladislav Lhotka <lhotka@nic.cz> Wed, 02 November 2016 07:52 UTC

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Subject: Re: [netmod] Ben Campbell's No Objection on draft-ietf-netmod-routing-cfg-24: (with COMMENT)
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> On 2 Nov 2016, at 01:45, Acee Lindem (acee) <acee@cisco.com> wrote:
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> On 11/1/16, 8:23 PM, "Ben Campbell" <ben@nostrum.com> wrote:
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>> On 1 Nov 2016, at 15:55, Acee Lindem (acee) wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Ben,
>>> 
>>> On 11/1/16, 4:19 PM, "Ben Campbell" <ben@nostrum.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Ben Campbell has entered the following ballot position for
>>>> draft-ietf-netmod-routing-cfg-24: No Objection
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>>>> COMMENT:
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>>>> Should the reference to 6536. Be normative?
>>> 
>>> I certainly don’t think so. This is simply an informative reference
>>> describing the NETCONF access control model. The model in the draft is
>>> in
>>> no way dependent on this model.
>> 
>> I can't call myself a NETCONF expert--but if you use the model in this
>> draft over NETCONF, are there other access control models one might
>> realistically use? (Noting that NETCONF itself is a normative
>> reference.)
> 
> NETCONF probably should not be - I’ll confer with my co-author. Note that
> NETCONF and NETCONF ACM are normative references in RFC 7223.

You probably meant "are not normative references", which is the case in RFC 7223. It makes sense to keep it this way for data modelling work - securing access to data is a protocol issue. Simple implementations may not need the granularity of NACM, and can instead allow access only to a "root" user.

Lada

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> Thanks,
> Acee 
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>> Ben.
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