Re: [Notifications] Statement of interest, and comments on scope

Leif Johansson <leifj@it.su.se> Thu, 09 August 2007 07:39 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Notifications] Statement of interest, and comments on scope
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Aki Niemi wrote:
> ext Leif Johansson wrote:
>   
>> If so you'd have to address the issue of the email client growing
>> a sip stack (or an xmpp stack).
>>     
>
> This goes a bit beyond what standards actually can address, but I think
> it the field there are frameworks that basically provide these protocols
> as a system service that other applications can use. As an example, the
> Symbian SIP stack allows any applications to register themselves for
> certain types of SIP communications, and the freedesktop.org's telepathy
> framework [1] allows for something similar via DBUS, an IPC bus.
>
> Plus there are many, many open source implementations of SIP and XMPP,
> which means no need to implement from scratch (which would be the only
> available approach to a brand new protocol).
>
> So I don't think the IETF would need to address this issue a whole lot
> more than, say, the issue of an email client having to grow a TLS stack.
>
> Cheers,
> Aki
>
> [1] http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/wiki/
>   
Actually both you and Lisa addressed the issue when you said
the IETF wouldn't have to :-) You both make the point that
desktop OSen tend to be structured differently today using
lots of infrastructure.

Thats a perfectly reasonable response to my question: its not a
problem since there are very few truly stand-alone applications
anymore.

    Cheers Leif


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