Re: [Notifications] Statement of interest, and comments on scope
Leif Johansson <leifj@it.su.se> Thu, 09 August 2007 07:39 UTC
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Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 09:39:42 +0200
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To: Aki Niemi <aki.niemi@nokia.com>
Subject: Re: [Notifications] Statement of interest, and comments on scope
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Aki Niemi wrote: > ext Leif Johansson wrote: > >> If so you'd have to address the issue of the email client growing >> a sip stack (or an xmpp stack). >> > > This goes a bit beyond what standards actually can address, but I think > it the field there are frameworks that basically provide these protocols > as a system service that other applications can use. As an example, the > Symbian SIP stack allows any applications to register themselves for > certain types of SIP communications, and the freedesktop.org's telepathy > framework [1] allows for something similar via DBUS, an IPC bus. > > Plus there are many, many open source implementations of SIP and XMPP, > which means no need to implement from scratch (which would be the only > available approach to a brand new protocol). > > So I don't think the IETF would need to address this issue a whole lot > more than, say, the issue of an email client having to grow a TLS stack. > > Cheers, > Aki > > [1] http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/wiki/ > Actually both you and Lisa addressed the issue when you said the IETF wouldn't have to :-) You both make the point that desktop OSen tend to be structured differently today using lots of infrastructure. Thats a perfectly reasonable response to my question: its not a problem since there are very few truly stand-alone applications anymore. Cheers Leif _______________________________________________ Notifications mailing list Notifications@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/notifications
- Re: [Notifications] Statement of interest, and co… Leif Johansson
- Re: [Notifications] Statement of interest, and co… Eric Burger
- Re: [Notifications] Statement of interest, and co… Chris Newman
- Re: [Notifications] Statement of interest, and co… Leif Johansson
- Re: [Notifications] Statement of interest, and co… Lisa Dusseault
- Re: [Notifications] Statement of interest, and co… Aki Niemi
- RE: [Notifications] Statement of interest, and co… Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: [Notifications] Statement of interest, and co… Leif Johansson
- Re: [Notifications] Statement of interest, and co… Graham Klyne
- Re: [Notifications] Statement of interest, and co… Leif Johansson
- Re: [Notifications] Statement of interest, and co… Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [Notifications] Statement of interest, and co… Chris Newman