Re: [OSPF] Benoit Claise's No Objection on draft-ietf-ospf-node-admin-tag-07: (with COMMENT)

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Subject: Re: [OSPF] Benoit Claise's No Objection on draft-ietf-ospf-node-admin-tag-07: (with COMMENT)
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David/Ben,

Pls see in-line

Rgds
shraddha

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From: Black, David [mailto:david.black@emc.com] 
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Subject: RE: Benoit Claise's No Objection on draft-ietf-ospf-node-admin-tag-07: (with COMMENT)

Benoit,

> I was initially confused by that sentence.

My understanding is that "independent characteristics" applies on a tag-by-tag basis.  I might suggest:

	Each tag carried by the administrative tag TLV SHOULD be used to
	indicate a characteristic of a node that is independent of the
	characteristics indicated by other administrative tags.
<Shraddha> Thanks for the text. Updating -08 version with above text.

Thanks,
--David


> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: Benoit Claise's No Objection on draft-ietf-ospf-node-admin-tag-07:
> (with COMMENT)
> 
> Benoit Claise has entered the following ballot position for
> draft-ietf-ospf-node-admin-tag-07: No Objection
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> COMMENT:
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> - "Tags carried by the
>    administrative tag TLV SHOULD be used to indicate independent
>    characteristics of a node."
> 
> I was initially confused by that sentence.
> So there are tags carried by a different TLV than the administrative one?
> Actually, no (I checked with one of the authors).
> I would simply write:
>    "Administrative tag TLV SHOULD be used to indicate independent
>    characteristics of a node."
> 
> This would be in line with the definition:
>    An administrative Tag is a 32-bit integer value that can be used to
>    identify a group of nodes in the OSPF domain.
> 
> - Router information LSA [RFC4970] can have link, area or AS
>    level flooding scope.  Choosing the flooding scope to flood the group
>    tags are defined by the policies and is a local matter.
> 
> "and is a local matter". Hopefully there is some sort of centralized 
> management application that checks consistency.
>