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Subodh Iyengar <subodh@fb.com> Wed, 19 December 2018 04:37 UTC

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From: Subodh Iyengar <subodh@fb.com>
To: Christian Huitema <huitema@huitema.net>, Ian Swett <ianswett=40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>
CC: Lars Eggert <lars@eggert.org>, IETF QUIC WG <quic@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: Where we're at
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We're hoping to get deployment experience with draft-17 as well, and completely agree that raising the bar on these changes is the appropriate thing to do.


Subodh


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From: QUIC <quic-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Christian Huitema <huitema@huitema.net>
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 8:34:47 PM
To: Ian Swett; Mark Nottingham
Cc: Lars Eggert; IETF QUIC WG
Subject: Re: Where we're at


On 12/18/2018 8:19 PM, Ian Swett wrote:
>
> Now that draft 17 is out, I would like to raise to bar on issues that
> are particularly important for interop and deployment
>  1) Changes to the header  ie: The QUIC bit and header protection
>  2) Changes to frame encoding and meaning
>  3) TLS mapping changes
>  4) Long header changes(VN, Retry, etc)
>
> We're hoping to gain deployment experience with draft 17(or possibly
> 18 if it arrives soon), so I would like to raise to bar on changes to
> the above 4 bullets unless anyone objects?
>
> In contrast, I know there is less implementation experience with
> HTTP/3, recovery, and some portions of the transport draft, such as
> connection migration and PMTU.  In those cases, I think it's
> appropriate to allow more changes until the WG has more experience.

Seems like a good idea. We have to keep this thing stable if we want to
ship, and we will gain way more knowledge from a shipping product than
from prototypes and discussions. Plus, there will be a V2.

-- Christian Huitema

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