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Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> Wed, 01 November 2017 15:26 UTC

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From: Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>
Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2017 08:25:46 -0700
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Subject: Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-quic-manageability-01.txt
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On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 8:15 AM, Brian Trammell (IETF) <ietf@trammell.ch>
wrote:

>
> > On 26 Oct 2017, at 13:38, Philipp S. Tiesel <phils@in-panik.de> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I really like the listing of which information QUIC exposes.
> > I have just one little question about it: Should Section 3 also state
> which information is exposed my the integrated TLS handshake?
>
> Yes, it should.
>
> > AFAIK, the TLS handshake exposes the application protocol and host name
> in clear.
>
> As I understand it, TLS1.3 should fix this.
>

Not at present, though we are working on it for the future.

-Ekr


> > I am not sure whether it also exposes the initial QUIC connection
> parameters in clear.
>
> As I read it, the cleartext packets only contain the TLS1.3 handshake.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Brian
>
> > AVE!
> >   Philipp S. Tiesel / phils…
> >
> >> On 25. Oct 2017, at 10:11, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
> directories.
> >> This draft is a work item of the QUIC WG of the IETF.
> >>
> >>        Title           : Manageability of the QUIC Transport Protocol
> >>        Authors         : Mirja Kuehlewind
> >>                          Brian Trammell
> >>      Filename        : draft-ietf-quic-manageability-01.txt
> >>      Pages           : 13
> >>      Date            : 2017-10-25
> >>
> >> Abstract:
> >>   This document discusses manageability of the QUIC transport protocol,
> >>   focusing on caveats impacting network operations involving QUIC
> >>   traffic.  Its intended audience is network operators, as well as
> >>   content providers that rely on the use of QUIC-aware middleboxes,
> >>   e.g. for load balancing.
> >>
> >>
> >> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-quic-manageability/
> >>
> >> There are also htmlized versions available at:
> >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-quic-manageability-01
> >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-quic-manageability-01
> >>
> >> A diff from the previous version is available at:
> >> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-quic-manageability-01
> >>
> >>
> >> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of
> submission
> >> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.
> >>
> >> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
> >> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

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