Re: Error handling and Public Reset
Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> Thu, 23 February 2017 12:49 UTC
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From: Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 04:48:26 -0800
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Subject: Re: Error handling and Public Reset
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There's been a fair amount of discussion on this PR, but it seems like we first need to resolve the high level design issue of who can send a public reset. Specifically: - Off-path elements - On-path elements which are not endpoints - Endpoints I think we agree that off-path elements should not be able to send acceptable public resets, but disagree about whether on-path elements which are not endpoints should be able to do so and if so whether they should be distinguishable from those sent by endpoints. As I indicated in PR#20 and the subsequent discussion, I don't think it's ideal for on-path elements to be able to send public resets because this leads to easy Great Firewall "man-on-the-side" type attacks, and it is possible to design a public reset mechanism in which the endpoints can have minimal persistent state and yet generate public resets that cannot be forged. If we add such a mechanism we can also, if we like, add one that allows on-path elements to generate public resets, but because these are weaker, they should be distinguishable so that endpoints can reject them. I recognize that there isn't consensus on this view -- at least no declared consensus -- though I don't believe that the contrary view has consensus either, but I think we need to resolve this before dealing with PR#335. -Ekr On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com> wrote: > I've put together a PR (hehe) that attempts to close on the discussion > we've had about public reset. I've expanded it to include more > details on error handling. This includes discussion on what to do > with connection close. > > I have not added anything about what to do with undelivered data. > That will follow once the current discussion concludes. > > https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/335 > >
- Error handling and Public Reset Martin Thomson
- Re: Error handling and Public Reset Eric Rescorla
- Re: Error handling and Public Reset Ryan Hamilton
- Re: Error handling and Public Reset Jana Iyengar
- Re: Error handling and Public Reset Ian Swett
- Re: Error handling and Public Reset Eric Rescorla
- Re: Error handling and Public Reset Jana Iyengar
- Re: Error handling and Public Reset Martin Thomson