Re: [radext] Basic question about user-name attribute

Alan DeKok <aland@deployingradius.com> Mon, 12 November 2018 12:30 UTC

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Subject: Re: [radext] Basic question about user-name attribute
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On Nov 12, 2018, at 7:19 AM, Stefan Winter <stefan.winter@restena.lu> wrote:
> It sometimes happens that RADIUS administrators are rude to their users
> in that they send back the actual username in the Accept while the user
> was trying to maintain his privacy when connecting.

  That happens a lot, unfortunately.  The reality is that it's just too useful in most situations to have a "real" name for the users session.

  The Chargeable-User-Identifier was created to address that issue.  But most NASes don't support it.

>> From what I've seen in the field, this is sometimes used in interplay
> with Accounting-Request: if the session that was being authenticated
> contains a User-Name in the Accept, that User-Name is sometimes used as
> the User-Name for subsequent Accounting-Requests for the same session.

  That is the behaviour suggested by RFC 2865 Section 5.1, about User-Name

      It MAY be sent in an Access-Accept packet, in which case the
      client SHOULD use the name returned in the Access-Accept packet in
      all Accounting-Request packets for this session.

  Without that practice, EAP would have users log in with anonymized User-Names, and then all of the Accounting-Request packets would contain the same anonymized User-Name.  Since most wireless NASes set "NAS-Port = 0", it becomes difficult to distinguish user sessions from one another.

  In hindsight, what RADIUS *should* have supported was the ability for the server to send an Acct-Session-Id in the Access-Accept.  The NAS could then use that in subsequent accounting packets.  Anonymity would be preserved, *and* servers wouldn't have to deal with broken NASes that re-use Acct-Session-Id after a reboot.

  I suppose a similar approach could be taken with the User-Name attribute.  But doing so would take not changing not only the server software, but changing databases and business practices by the administrators.  That's a difficult proposition.

> Nothing in the RFCs forbids either of these practices.

  The text in RFC 2865 *could* be interpreted to mean that the User-Name in Access-Accept can be anything.  i.e. unrelated to the User-Name in the Access-Request.

  Alan DeKok.