IETF Logo Mail Archive

Re: [regext] draft-ietf-regext-epp-fees: add feature to inquire balance and credit limit?

Pieter Vandepitte <pieter.vandepitte@dnsbelgium.be> Wed, 15 May 2019 18:05 UTC

Return-Path: <pieter.vandepitte@dnsbelgium.be>
X-Original-To: regext@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: regext@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B34B212047D for <regext@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 15 May 2019 11:05:07 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.001
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=dnsbelgium.be
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xVIY844RkHva for <regext@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 15 May 2019 11:05:04 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from EUR04-DB3-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-eopbgr60126.outbound.protection.outlook.com [40.107.6.126]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 525FA120497 for <regext@ietf.org>; Wed, 15 May 2019 11:05:04 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=dnsbelgium.be; s=selector1; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version:X-MS-Exchange-SenderADCheck; bh=X4qVY9zGTA9B1QJDUD6jaFu+AXWIZM9TvlLn7wfdihI=; b=ytFFBDySEvJTRKTvm/irqeBXCRegijz5Vq73t+cJnjIP9fRWIUzlH8q1SihODgRDqzrEuGFoerkvzOu+j7TUHKEz2cqknLwdyymxXGbyfeP2nCBEq2nmyLNxcpcOiw3enuH6x35yisZw84rL6A6CM0FWGTPt/3k1DtSjSZVT7PE=
Received: from AM5PR0602MB2753.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com (10.175.40.145) by AM5PR0602MB3218.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com (10.167.170.147) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.1878.22; Wed, 15 May 2019 18:05:01 +0000
Received: from AM5PR0602MB2753.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com ([fe80::e446:f0f5:cf8b:8eb4]) by AM5PR0602MB2753.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com ([fe80::e446:f0f5:cf8b:8eb4%5]) with mapi id 15.20.1900.010; Wed, 15 May 2019 18:05:01 +0000
From: Pieter Vandepitte <pieter.vandepitte@dnsbelgium.be>
To: "Thomas Corte (TANGO support)" <Thomas.Corte@knipp.de>, "regext@ietf.org" <regext@ietf.org>
CC: "support@tango-rs.com" <support@tango-rs.com>
Thread-Topic: [regext] draft-ietf-regext-epp-fees: add feature to inquire balance and credit limit?
Thread-Index: AQHVCy1VByR2eca8NkW5CNjPxfTtnaZsnJgA
Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 18:05:01 +0000
Message-ID: <17B271B1-9F33-408C-B76B-720F37FC922F@dnsbelgium.be>
References: <e5b6f4f6-96cc-eaeb-7f25-478e98cf1488@knipp.de>
In-Reply-To: <e5b6f4f6-96cc-eaeb-7f25-478e98cf1488@knipp.de>
Accept-Language: nl-BE, en-US
Content-Language: en-US
X-MS-Has-Attach:
X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:
authentication-results: spf=none (sender IP is ) smtp.mailfrom=pieter.vandepitte@dnsbelgium.be;
x-originating-ip: [2a02:1802:5f:fff1::13f]
x-ms-publictraffictype: Email
x-ms-office365-filtering-correlation-id: a8c6f3ff-3f78-455d-c597-08d6d95fd96d
x-microsoft-antispam: BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(2390118)(7020095)(4652040)(7021145)(8989299)(4534185)(7022145)(4603075)(4627221)(201702281549075)(8990200)(7048125)(7024125)(7027125)(7023125)(5600141)(711020)(4605104)(2017052603328)(7193020); SRVR:AM5PR0602MB3218;
x-ms-traffictypediagnostic: AM5PR0602MB3218:
x-ms-exchange-purlcount: 1
x-microsoft-antispam-prvs: <AM5PR0602MB3218BFA6BB53AF857C3BB8B2E2090@AM5PR0602MB3218.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
x-ms-oob-tlc-oobclassifiers: OLM:10000;
x-forefront-prvs: 0038DE95A2
x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10019020)(979002)(366004)(39840400004)(136003)(346002)(396003)(376002)(189003)(199004)(316002)(7736002)(6306002)(6436002)(99286004)(6512007)(305945005)(6506007)(229853002)(33656002)(91956017)(76116006)(6486002)(73956011)(2501003)(66556008)(102836004)(66946007)(76176011)(66476007)(36756003)(64756008)(66446008)(68736007)(110136005)(8676002)(508600001)(6116002)(4326008)(74482002)(86362001)(966005)(486006)(6246003)(44832011)(476003)(71200400001)(2616005)(81166006)(71190400001)(81156014)(8936002)(186003)(82746002)(83716004)(14444005)(256004)(25786009)(14454004)(2906002)(53936002)(46003)(446003)(11346002)(5660300002)(969003)(989001)(999001)(1009001)(1019001); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:AM5PR0602MB3218; H:AM5PR0602MB2753.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; SPF:None; LANG:en; PTR:InfoNoRecords; MX:1; A:1;
received-spf: None (protection.outlook.com: dnsbelgium.be does not designate permitted sender hosts)
x-ms-exchange-senderadcheck: 1
x-microsoft-antispam-message-info: kOYo5XUe8bFlpIeEN1B3Cg54qq8Gy62PMcoZ57y0EYgdWWOd7BNh6ZiKTSEV1bIt2uB75WHwj3ekPE4kIIpgioZ2Ed3A5qc87el+TG5ab8ftdH8a30h5NjRwXHT5h+9plKoOxpHCAKva69VDGCpYLZuZ34b37cF4thJwo/Iqgtu1Vx2AiCPDY1zKO/PEzGfDGbSxzF7W3vR914MYHTeHWMH3lg6+5Y2uV6LeuCbDLKMxEZQGnOhkMVw5sWPBbC2nSIfBTW95JQL4vsIn37eXrL0ZcLQcFwKWFb0I9k2ZqNRvGCmqqQiuCsVzbRirgKgQSuGX95yV+YchDdsMizlWagG1x2J3JIcud5SoXw3KDtA7OFR32fuR8lXfLxyMNmEjNGQG5Kmh+JPGjj2w+ldL0wMBeuyoN3jo5JfCP/jLTD4=
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Content-ID: <A5AD8401D062B64982484B5D607AD7B7@eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-OriginatorOrg: dnsbelgium.be
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: a8c6f3ff-3f78-455d-c597-08d6d95fd96d
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 15 May 2019 18:05:01.1233 (UTC)
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 695195de-c0cb-4478-9204-2a861e60e59c
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-mailboxtype: HOSTED
X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: AM5PR0602MB3218
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/regext/XC-wb1qy_Wcmh6q4Wms_VC2zTGU>
Subject: Re: [regext] draft-ietf-regext-epp-fees: add feature to inquire balance and credit limit?
X-BeenThere: regext@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: Registration Protocols Extensions <regext.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/regext>, <mailto:regext-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/regext/>
List-Post: <mailto:regext@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:regext-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/regext>, <mailto:regext-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 18:05:08 -0000

Hi Thomas,

At DNS Belgium, we have implemented a custom "registrar:info" extension for that a long time ago. Balance or credit limit is a registrar property, so in my opinion it does not belong in the response of any domain command. Instead of defining a new registrar object, you could implement the organisation extension and lobby for an update of the epp-fees extension to include balance data in info commands? Or something in that direction (I'm not aware of all details of these extensions)

Kind regards,

Pieter

On 15/05/2019, 16:49, "regext on behalf of Thomas Corte (TANGO support)" <regext-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of Thomas.Corte@knipp.de> wrote:

    Hello,
    
    some of our registrars keep asking for a feature to simply inquire their
    current account balance and credit limit via EPP.
    
    As far as I can tell, even the latest fee extension draft
    ("draft-ietf-regext-epp-fees-16") only supports the retrieval of this
    information in the response to a *transform* command, but not e.g. in a
    check response.
    
    This isn't ideal since the registrar should not be forced to send a
    "dummy" sequence of billable commands (e.g., a domain create/delete or
    transfer request/cancel sequence) only to get this information.
    Also, even if the registrar would store the values from the most recent
    "non-dummy" transform response, they could become obsolete quickly due to
    intermittent automatic renewals, or account top-up deposits.
    
    What's the opinion in this group regarding the addition of an inquiry
    feature, e.g. by adding a flag to the <domain:check> command fee
    extension, which could trigger the inclusion of the balance/limit in the
    <domain:check> fee response extension?
    
    Best regards,
    
    Thomas Corte
    
    -- 
    TANGO REGISTRY SERVICES® is a product of:
    Knipp Medien und Kommunikation GmbH
    Technologiepark                             Phone: +49 231 9703-222
    Martin-Schmeisser-Weg 9                       Fax: +49 231 9703-200
    D-44227 Dortmund                       E-Mail: support@tango-rs.com
    Germany
    
    _______________________________________________
    regext mailing list
    regext@ietf.org
    https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/regext

v2.23.0 | Report a Bug | By Email