Re: draft-nitish-vrrp-bfd
Colin Docherty <colin@doch.org.uk> Thu, 31 August 2017 13:10 UTC
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From: Colin Docherty <colin@doch.org.uk>
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 13:10:02 +0000
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Subject: Re: draft-nitish-vrrp-bfd
To: "Acee Lindem (acee)" <acee@cisco.com>, "Nitish Gupta (nitisgup)" <nitisgup@cisco.com>, "thibault.tabani@altran.com" <thibault.tabani@altran.com>, "rtg-bfd@ietf.org" <rtg-bfd@ietf.org>, "rtgwg@ietf.org" <rtgwg@ietf.org>
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Totally agree. Colin. On Thu, 31 Aug 2017 at 10:56 Acee Lindem (acee) <acee@cisco.com> wrote: > Hi Nitish, > > Irrespective of any IPR discussions, BFD is inherently a P2P protocol and, > consequently, I would vote for P2P peer table. > > Thanks, > Acee > > From: rtgwg <rtgwg-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of "Nitish Gupta > (nitisgup)" <nitisgup@cisco.com> > Date: Thursday, August 31, 2017 at 1:51 AM > To: "thibault.tabani@altran.com" <thibault.tabani@altran.com>, " > rtg-bfd@ietf.org" <rtg-bfd@ietf.org>, Routing WG <rtgwg@ietf.org> > Cc: "colin@doch.org.uk" <colin@doch.org.uk>, " > draft-nitish-vrrp-bfd@ietf.org" <draft-nitish-vrrp-bfd@ietf.org>, "Aditya > Dogra (addogra)" <addogra@cisco.com> > Subject: Re: draft-nitish-vrrp-bfd > > Hi Thibault, > > > > Thanks for the interest in the Draft, appreciate it. Please review the > draft and let us know if you have any comments, suggestions. > > > > Hi RTGWG/RTGBFD, > > > > There were two solutions proposed in the draft. > > One pertains to making a peer table in VRRP and uses p2p BFD. > > The second solution pertains to p2mp BFD. > > > > While we were working on the draft there was an IPR associated to the > DRAFT and the WG felt that we need to wait until we can see the IPR and > what its associated to. > > We can see that the IPR is available for us to view and we can see that > the IPR is associated to p2mp BFD. > > > > https://www.google.com/patents/US20170005915 > > > > We are going to submit a draft with the p2p BFD so that we can continue > working on the Draft. > > There was lot of interest last time as well, just because of the IPR claim > we had stopped the work. > > > > Thanks, > > Nitish > > > > *From: *Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com> > *Date: *Tuesday, August 29, 2017 at 11:01 AM > *To: *TABANI Thibault <thibault.tabani@altran.com> > *Cc: *"draft-nitish-vrrp-bfd@ietf.org" <draft-nitish-vrrp-bfd@ietf.org>, > "Nitish Gupta (nitisgup)" <nitisgup@cisco.com>, "rtg-bfd@ietf.org" < > rtg-bfd@ietf.org>, "rtgwg@ietf.org" <rtgwg@ietf.org> > *Subject: *Re: draft-nitish-vrrp-bfd > *Resent-From: *<alias-bounces@ietf.org> > *Resent-To: *<nitisgup@cisco.com>, <addogra@cisco.com>, <colin@doch.org.uk>, > <gregimirsky@gmail.com>, <jefftant.ietf@gmail.com> > *Resent-Date: *Tuesday, August 29, 2017 at 11:01 AM > > > > Hi Thibault, > > thank you for your interest in the draft, much appreciated. Please don't > be discouraged that it lapsed, we can fix it easily. I think that authors > had similar to your idea when we've started thinking about BFD supporting > VRRP. And like you we haven't found any reference in existing documents, > hence this draft draft-nitish-vrrp-bfd. Would be much obliged if you review > and share your comments, suggestion regarding solutions proposed in the > draft. > > > > Regards, > > Greg > > > > On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 9:20 AM, TABANI Thibault < > thibault.tabani@altran.com> wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I am working at improving VRRP convergence time. (target a few 100’s of > milliseconds) > > > > It appears that VRRP supports BFD health monitoring which might be a > better option than tuning VRRP aggressive timers. > > > > Unfortunately I cannot find any active RFC where VRRP supports BFD. The > only document I found is your draft document: > > > > Fast failure detection in VRRP with BFD > draft-nitish-vrrp-bfd-04 > > > > Unfortunately date expires of this document. As BFD support for VRRP is > implemented on most routers, I suppose that an active RFC might exist on > that specific BFD implementation within VRRP. (new backup advertisement > messages….peer table….) > > br > > > > > > *Thibault TABANI * > architect Altran Connected Solutions > Altran France > > > *[image: id:image001.png@01CF8AFD.950B79F0]* > > > > 1, Impasse Charles Trenet > > 44800 Saint-Herblain > France > > Tel. : +33 2 40 67 62 62 <+33%202%2040%2067%2062%2062> > Mob. : +33 6 79 06 33 63 <+33%206%2079%2006%2033%2063> > *thibault.tabani@altran.com <thibault.tabani@altran.com>* > *www.altran.fr <http://www.altran.fr/>* > > > > [image: escription : Description : cid:image002.png@01CD89E1.42D19210] > <http://facebook.com/AltranFrance>[image: escription : Description : > cid:image003.png@01CD89E1.42D19210] <http://twitter.com/AltranFrance>[image: > escription : Description : LinkedIn_signatureMail] > <http://linkedin.com/company/altran-france>[image: escription : > Description : pictog_viadeo] <http://www.viadeo.com/fr/company/altran> > > > > > >
- Re: draft-nitish-vrrp-bfd Greg Mirsky
- Re: draft-nitish-vrrp-bfd Nitish Gupta (nitisgup)
- Re: draft-nitish-vrrp-bfd Nitish Gupta (nitisgup)
- Re: draft-nitish-vrrp-bfd Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: draft-nitish-vrrp-bfd Colin Docherty
- Re: draft-nitish-vrrp-bfd Greg Mirsky