Re: (fwd) Re: Real Espresso Coffee
ColorNet Robin <jrobin@ATELIER.FR> Mon, 19 June 2000 19:20 UTC
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From: ColorNet Robin <jrobin@ATELIER.FR>
Subject: Re: (fwd) Re: Real Espresso Coffee
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jcdill@VO.CNCHOST.COM a écrit: >If there was ever any doubt (as if) that our draft is sorely >needed, here is a textbook case in point. > >jc Sorry to but in - but again taking up my minority viewpoint of some months ago I feel the argument is to a great extent out of court. IMHO 1) Looking ahead 3 years bandwidth and access payments will not be a problem 2) The argument regarding ONLINE OFFLINE legislation still holds good and 55% of US surface mail is junk mail 3) What constitutes SPAM remains a moot question - and the implications for censorship of free circulation of information outweigh local skin deep irritation - however justified that remains. 4) With IPv6 there will be ways of tracking and backtracking SPAM will be the rule rather than the exception 5) This is an unfortunate spin off of this stage of the internet but cannot be sensibly fought against as a purely online phenomenon 6) Perhaps closer ties with ISTF may be thought worthwhile - as ISTF will be looking to IETF in the area of Security and Privacy best regards Jonathan Robin ISSG ISTF
- (fwd) Re: Real Espresso Coffee JC Dill
- Re: (fwd) Re: Real Espresso Coffee ColorNet Robin