Re: [Secauth] secauth use case - What is next?

Alan DeKok <aland@deployingradius.com> Wed, 03 December 2014 22:17 UTC

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On Dec 3, 2014, at 5:07 PM, Hosnieh Rafiee <ietf@rozanak.com> wrote:

> What if the new network infrastructure changes the role of these companies?

  It likely will change the role.  But… most of them have been around for decades.  They are likely to stay, if only to service legacy equipment.

> Even the role of many hardware companies might change... and they are aware
> of this fact... 
> How can you find a role for them in the new infrastructure with SDN/NFV
> players? 

  I don’t know.  That isn’t really my concern.  If they want to be part of new systems, they will have to figure out how to do that themselves.

> What is the motivation for hotels to support cross domain authentication?

  I have no idea.  I was referencing your slides.

  Alan DeKok.