Re: [secdir] Secdir review of draft-ietf-tls-record-limit

Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu> Fri, 23 February 2018 01:50 UTC

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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2018 19:49:57 -0600
From: Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu>
To: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
Cc: Alan DeKok <aland@deployingradius.com>, draft-ietf-tls-record-limit@ietf.org, IESG <iesg@ietf.org>, secdir@ietf.org
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Subject: Re: [secdir] Secdir review of draft-ietf-tls-record-limit
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On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 12:19:19PM +1100, Martin Thomson wrote:
> Thanks Alan,

Yes, thanks!

> 
> A few changes based on your feedback here:
> https://github.com/tlswg/tls-record-limit/pull/17
> 
> On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 9:21 AM, Alan DeKok <aland@deployingradius.com> wrote:
> 
> > Comment: the registry has no "status" column.
> 
> Ahh, a problem of concurrent updates.
> draft-ietf-tls-iana-registry-updates (which is going out just ahead of
> this) adds that column.  I don't think that there was any intention of
> creating an explicit dependency, which won't make sense in 5 years
> time, but I guess we can add an informational reference.

Unfortunately draft-ietf-tls-iana-registry-updates is on the 5 April
telechat and will need to undergo another IETF Last Call to call out
downrefs for a handful of documents that it needs to Update.  So,
probably we should shuffle things around so the depndency goes the
other way.

-Benjamin