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Re: [sidr] Ben Campbell's No Objection on draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-pki-profiles-19: (with COMMENT)

Sean Turner <sean@sn3rd.com> Wed, 04 January 2017 23:21 UTC

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From: Sean Turner <sean@sn3rd.com>
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Subject: Re: [sidr] Ben Campbell's No Objection on draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-pki-profiles-19: (with COMMENT)
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> On Jan 4, 2017, at 18:19, Ben Campbell <ben@nostrum.com> wrote:
> 
> On 4 Jan 2017, at 16:37, Sean Turner wrote:
> 
>> -2: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-protocol explicitly excludes non-capitalized
>>> versions of 2119 words. This draft does not. It seems different 2119
>>> approaches among the various bgpsec draft could be confusing to the
>>> reader.
>> 
>> 
>> Where’s that in draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-protocol?
>> 
>> Regardless, I’m not sure that restoration will work in this draft because there are repeated MUST requirements from other RFC and my AD told me to not capitalize them :)
> 
> Oops, sorry, I meant to say draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-ops.
> 
> Maybe I misunderstand what you mean; are the non-capitalized requirements from other drafts intended as normative for _this_ draft? If not, then the treatment of non-capitalized 2119 words as normal English seems to help.
> 

It’s more like: "As defined in RFC mubleqsuat, client must do this.”  The thinking goes (and I agree) that we should repeat requirements if we’re just quoting them.

spt

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