[lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-composite-sigs-08 (Ends 2025-10-06)
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Subject: [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-composite-sigs-08 (Ends 2025-10-06)
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It looks to me like we have reached consensus. I will start the write-up to request publication. Authors, each of you will need to reply to confirm that parts of the write-up are correct. For the LAMPS WG chairs, Russ > On Oct 14, 2025, at 2:46 PM, Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com> wrote: > > No one raised any new issues. With the posting of -12, the authors believe that the two open issues have been resolved. > > If you do not agree that the two open issues have been resolved, please speak now. > > Russ > >> On Oct 8, 2025, at 4:41 PM, Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com> wrote: >> >> I have read the many messaged on this WG Last Call. I believe that all of the issues that have been raise have reached rough consensus, except two. >> >> First, the discussion of EUF-CMA vs SUF-CMA has not yet reached closure. >> >> Second, there are disagreements about the proposed wording for the RECOMMENDED private key format. >> >> In the Datatracker, I have set the state to: >> State: In WG Last Call >> Tag: Revised I-D Needed - Issue raised by WGLC >> >> The intent is to allow time for the unresolved topics to continue being discussed. >> >> I know that we do not have 100% agreement on every detail. However, If you see other items that need further discussion, please speak now. >> >> For the LAMPS WG chairs, >> Russ >> >> >>> On Sep 22, 2025, at 11:50 AM, Russ Housley via Datatracker <noreply@ietf.org> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Subject: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-composite-sigs-08 (Ends 2025-10-06) >>> >>> This message starts a 2-week WG Last Call for this document. >>> >>> Abstract: >>> This document defines combinations of ML-DSA [FIPS.204] in hybrid >>> with traditional algorithms RSASSA-PKCS1-v1.5, RSASSA-PSS, ECDSA, >>> Ed25519, and Ed448. These combinations are tailored to meet security >>> best practices and regulatory guidelines. Composite ML-DSA is >>> applicable in any application that uses X.509 or PKIX data structures >>> that accept ML-DSA, but where the operator wants extra protection >>> against breaks or catastrophic bugs in ML-DSA. >>> >>> File can be retrieved from: >>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lamps-pq-composite-sigs/ >>> >>> Please review and indicate your support or objection to proceed with the >>> publication of this document by replying to this email keeping spasm@ietf.org >>> in copy. Objections should be motivated and suggestions to resolve them are >>> highly appreciated. >>> >>> Authors, and WG participants in general, are reminded again of the >>> Intellectual Property Rights (IPR) disclosure obligations described in BCP 79 >>> [1]. Appropriate IPR disclosures required for full conformance with the >>> provisions of BCP 78 [1] and BCP 79 [2] must be filed, if you are aware of >>> any. Sanctions available for application to violators of IETF IPR Policy can >>> be found at [3]. >>> >>> Thank you. >>> >>> [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/bcp78/ >>> [2] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/bcp79/ >>> [3] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc6701/ >>> >>> >>> >> >
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… John Mattsson
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… tirumal reddy
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… tirumal reddy
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Peter C
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Peter C
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Salz, Rich
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Peter C
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Corey Bonnell
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ie… John Gray
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Ilari Liusvaara
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Salz, Rich
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Pala, Max
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Falko Strenzke
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Salz, Rich
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Bas Westerbaan
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Falko Strenzke
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Falko Strenzke
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Ilari Liusvaara
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Bas Westerbaan
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Falko Strenzke
- [lamps] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-composi… Russ Housley via Datatracker
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… John Mattsson
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Scott Fluhrer (sfluhrer)
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Peter C
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Corey Bonnell
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Falko Strenzke
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Falko Strenzke
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: WG Last Call: draf… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: WG Last Call: draf… Falko Strenzke
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: WG Last Call: draf… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: WG Last Call: draf… Scott Fluhrer (sfluhrer)
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ie… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: WG Last Call: draf… Peter C
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: WG Last Call: draf… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: WG Last Call: draf… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: WG Last Call: draf… John Mattsson
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: WG Last Call: draf… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: WG Last Call: draf… John Mattsson
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: WG Last Call: draf… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: WG Last Call: draf… Scott Fluhrer (sfluhrer)
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: WG Last Call: draf… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: WG Last Call: draf… Peter C
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: WG Last Call: draf… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ie… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: WG Last Call: draf… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Ilari Liusvaara
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: WG Last Call: draf… John Mattsson
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: WG Last Call: draf… Ilari Liusvaara
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: WG Last Call: draf… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: WG Last Call: draf… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Tim Hudson
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… David Hook
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Dennis Jackson
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ie… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Sophie Schmieg
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Popis Piotr
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Jean-Pierre Fiset
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Bas Westerbaan
- [lamps] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-la… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- [lamps] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-la… David Benjamin
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Dennis Jackson
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-la… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- [lamps] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-la… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-la… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- [lamps] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-la… Viktor Dukhovni
- [lamps] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-la… Watson Ladd
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… David Hook
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Dennis Jackson
- [lamps] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-la… Viktor Dukhovni
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… David Hook
- [lamps] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-la… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Dennis Jackson
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call… John Gray
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call… Dennis Jackson
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call… Dennis Jackson
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call… Viktor Dukhovni
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call… Viktor Dukhovni
- [lamps] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-la… Ilari Liusvaara
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Daniel Van Geest
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Daniel Van Geest
- [lamps] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-la… Daniel Van Geest
- [lamps] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-la… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Michael Richardson
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-la… Wei-Jun Wang
- [lamps] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-la… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ie… Carl Wallace
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: WG Last Call: draf… John Mattsson
- [lamps] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-la… Richard Kettlewell
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… D. J. Bernstein
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… David Hook
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… John Mattsson
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Tim Hudson
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ie… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Tomas Gustavsson
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Watson Ladd
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Kris Kwiatkowski
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Carl Wallace
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… David Hook
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… David Hook
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Daniel Van Geest
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Daniel Van Geest
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ie… John Gray
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Russ Housley