[lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-composite-sigs-08 (Ends 2025-10-06)
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Subject: [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-composite-sigs-08 (Ends 2025-10-06)
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Hi, I am reviewing IPR disclosure 4761 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/4761/?utm_source=chatgpt.com> related to Composite ML-DSA. I would like to understand whether the licensing terms allow implementations in open source projects. From my reading, the disclosure appears to provide a commitment that is conditional. Does this IPR declaration permit open source implementations without the need for individual agreements with CableLabs ? Your clarification will help assess whether Composite ML-DSA can be adopted in open source cryptographic libraries and security protocols (use of composite ML-DSA is proposed in TLS, IKEv2 and JOSE). -Tiru On Mon, 22 Sept 2025 at 21:23, Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com> wrote: > As part of this WG Last Call, be aware that this IPR disclosure was > submitted four years ago: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/4761/ > > Russ > > > On Sep 22, 2025, at 11:50 AM, Russ Housley via Datatracker < > noreply@ietf.org> wrote: > > > Subject: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-composite-sigs-08 (Ends > 2025-10-06) > > This message starts a 2-week WG Last Call for this document. > > Abstract: > This document defines combinations of ML-DSA [FIPS.204] in hybrid > with traditional algorithms RSASSA-PKCS1-v1.5, RSASSA-PSS, ECDSA, > Ed25519, and Ed448. These combinations are tailored to meet security > best practices and regulatory guidelines. Composite ML-DSA is > applicable in any application that uses X.509 or PKIX data structures > that accept ML-DSA, but where the operator wants extra protection > against breaks or catastrophic bugs in ML-DSA. > > File can be retrieved from: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lamps-pq-composite-sigs/ > > Please review and indicate your support or objection to proceed with the > publication of this document by replying to this email keeping > spasm@ietf.org > in copy. Objections should be motivated and suggestions to resolve them are > highly appreciated. > > Authors, and WG participants in general, are reminded again of the > Intellectual Property Rights (IPR) disclosure obligations described in BCP > 79 > [1]. Appropriate IPR disclosures required for full conformance with the > provisions of BCP 78 [1] and BCP 79 [2] must be filed, if you are aware of > any. Sanctions available for application to violators of IETF IPR Policy > can > be found at [3]. > > Thank you. > > [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/bcp78/ > [2] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/bcp79/ > [3] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc6701/ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Spasm mailing list -- spasm@ietf.org > To unsubscribe send an email to spasm-leave@ietf.org >
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… John Mattsson
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… tirumal reddy
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… tirumal reddy
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Peter C
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Peter C
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Salz, Rich
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Peter C
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Corey Bonnell
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ie… John Gray
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Ilari Liusvaara
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Salz, Rich
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Pala, Max
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Falko Strenzke
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Salz, Rich
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Bas Westerbaan
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Falko Strenzke
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Falko Strenzke
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Ilari Liusvaara
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Bas Westerbaan
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Falko Strenzke
- [lamps] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-composi… Russ Housley via Datatracker
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… John Mattsson
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Scott Fluhrer (sfluhrer)
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Peter C
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Corey Bonnell
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Falko Strenzke
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Falko Strenzke
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: WG Last Call: draf… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: WG Last Call: draf… Falko Strenzke
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: WG Last Call: draf… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: WG Last Call: draf… Scott Fluhrer (sfluhrer)
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ie… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: WG Last Call: draf… Peter C
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: WG Last Call: draf… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: WG Last Call: draf… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: WG Last Call: draf… John Mattsson
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: WG Last Call: draf… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: WG Last Call: draf… John Mattsson
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: WG Last Call: draf… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: WG Last Call: draf… Scott Fluhrer (sfluhrer)
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: WG Last Call: draf… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: WG Last Call: draf… Peter C
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: WG Last Call: draf… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ie… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: WG Last Call: draf… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Ilari Liusvaara
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: WG Last Call: draf… John Mattsson
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: WG Last Call: draf… Ilari Liusvaara
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: WG Last Call: draf… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: WG Last Call: draf… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Tim Hudson
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… David Hook
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Dennis Jackson
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ie… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Sophie Schmieg
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Popis Piotr
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Jean-Pierre Fiset
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Bas Westerbaan
- [lamps] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-la… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- [lamps] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-la… David Benjamin
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Dennis Jackson
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-la… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- [lamps] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-la… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-la… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- [lamps] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-la… Viktor Dukhovni
- [lamps] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-la… Watson Ladd
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… David Hook
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Dennis Jackson
- [lamps] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-la… Viktor Dukhovni
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… David Hook
- [lamps] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-la… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Dennis Jackson
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call… John Gray
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call… Dennis Jackson
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call… Dennis Jackson
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call… Viktor Dukhovni
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call… Viktor Dukhovni
- [lamps] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-la… Ilari Liusvaara
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Daniel Van Geest
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Daniel Van Geest
- [lamps] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-la… Daniel Van Geest
- [lamps] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-la… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Michael Richardson
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-la… Wei-Jun Wang
- [lamps] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-la… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ie… Carl Wallace
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: WG Last Call: draf… John Mattsson
- [lamps] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-la… Richard Kettlewell
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… D. J. Bernstein
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… David Hook
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… John Mattsson
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Tim Hudson
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ie… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Tomas Gustavsson
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Watson Ladd
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Kris Kwiatkowski
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Carl Wallace
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… David Hook
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… David Hook
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Daniel Van Geest
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Daniel Van Geest
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ie… John Gray
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-lamps-pq-com… Russ Housley