[stir] Fwd: [dispatch] New Internet-Draft: Caller-ID Vouching and Vetting (CIDVV)
Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com> Fri, 08 May 2026 14:40 UTC
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Subject: [stir] Fwd: [dispatch] New Internet-Draft: Caller-ID Vouching and Vetting (CIDVV)
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This may be of interest to people on this mail list. Russ > From: Roger Anderson <roger@jollyrogertelephone.com> > Subject: [dispatch] New Internet-Draft: Caller-ID Vouching and Vetting (CIDVV) > Date: May 7, 2026 at 10:42:13 PM EDT > To: dispatch@ietf.org > > Hello, > > We have submitted a new Internet-Draft titled: > > Caller-ID Vouching and Vetting (CIDVV) > > CIDVV defines a lightweight mechanism for verifying Caller-ID > using short-lived signaling exchanges encoded in the Calling Party > Number. The approach enables both real-time verification (vouching) > and pre-established trust relationships (vetting) without requiring > new protocol extensions or persistent identity infrastructure. > > The mechanism is designed to operate across heterogeneous SIP and > SS7/TDM networks and to complement existing identity frameworks > such as STIR/SHAKEN, particularly in environments where attestation > is unavailable, unreliable, or intentionally circumvented. > > We are seeking guidance on whether this work is appropriate for an > existing working group or if it should be considered for a new > work item. > > The draft is available at: > https://cidvv.org/draft-anderson-askew-cidvv.html > > Additional background and whitepaper: > https://cidvv.org/ > > Source and issue tracking: > https://github.com/Jolly-Roger-Telephone-Company/cidvv-spec > > We welcome feedback from the community. > > Thanks, > Roger Anderson > (on behalf of the authors) >
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