Re: [Tls-reg-review] Request to register ALPN ID for DNS-over-TLS

Yoav Nir <ynir.ietf@gmail.com> Mon, 16 December 2019 17:16 UTC

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From: Yoav Nir <ynir.ietf@gmail.com>
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Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2019 19:16:03 +0200
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Subject: Re: [Tls-reg-review] Request to register ALPN ID for DNS-over-TLS
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I think it’s fine.  Nick?

> On 16 Dec 2019, at 17:52, Salz, Rich <rsalz@akamai.com> wrote:
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> Yoav and Nick,
>  
> Could you guys approve this?  Since it came from Akamai, I want to abstain.
>  
> From: "Reed, Jon" <jreed@akamai.com>
> Date: Monday, December 16, 2019 at 7:56 AM
> To: "tls-reg-review@ietf.org" <tls-reg-review@ietf.org>
> Subject: [Tls-reg-review] Request to register ALPN ID for DNS-over-TLS
>  
> Hi, 
>  
> I'd like to request registration of an ALPN ID for DNS-over-TLS (RFC 7858).   The ID will be used, by prior out-of-band mutual agreement, in cases where DNS-over-TLS is used over a non-standard-part (e.g. 443).    The identification sequence will be: 0x64 0x6F 0x74 ("dot").
>  
> Rich Salz suggested I survey the dprive working group before doing this, and I have done so[1].  There appears to be support for this, including from one of the authors of RFC 7858, provided it's used by prior agreement on non-standard ports, and not required as part of normal use on port 853.
>  
> Please let me know if you have more questions or need more information.
>  
> Thanks, 
>  
> Jon
>  
> [1] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dns-privacy/iZ2rDIhFB2ZWsGC3PcdBVLGa8Do <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dns-privacy/iZ2rDIhFB2ZWsGC3PcdBVLGa8Do>
>  
> --
> Jon Reed
> jreed@akamai.com <mailto:jreed@akamai.com>
> Nameservers Service Performance
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