[TLS] Re: Working Group Last Call for TLS 1.2 is in Feature Freeze

Alicja Kario <hkario@redhat.com> Tue, 10 December 2024 12:10 UTC

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From: Alicja Kario <hkario@redhat.com>
To: Yaron Sheffer <yaronf.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2024 13:10:09 +0100
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Subject: [TLS] Re: Working Group Last Call for TLS 1.2 is in Feature Freeze
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No, support for a new ciphersuite, especially one that uses new primitives,
is a _new feature._

At least, that's how we operate, and I am not aware of any discussions 
about
that being confusing to customers... So I'm pretty sure that "Most people" 
is
not correct.

On Tuesday, 10 December 2024 12:44:44 CET, Yaron Sheffer wrote:
> I think the draft is confusing to the point of almost being 
> misleading, in particular with its use of the word “feature”. 
> Based on the words “feature freeze” people on this list have 
> interpreted it as merely “the TLS WG will no longer work on TLS 
> 1.2”. But by blocking IANA registrations, this has much broader 
> implications on real-world use of TLS 1.2.
>  
> This confusion is true for the document’s title, as well as the 
> introduction, quoting:
>  
> Both [TLS] versions have several extension points, so items 
> like new cryptographic algorithms, new supported groups 
> (formerly "named curves"), etc., can be added without defining a 
> new protocol.  This document specifies that outside of urgent 
> security fixes, and the exceptions listed in Section 4, no new 
> features will be approved for TLS 1.2.
>  
> Most people would read it to mean that no new *features* (e.g. 
> new TLS messages) will be added, but that the “extension points” 
> (e.g. new ciphersuites) continue to be available.
>  
> Thanks,
>                 Yaron
>  
> On 09/12/2024, 21:01, "Alicja Kario" <hkario@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> I think it's ready for publication.
>  
> On Tuesday, 3 December 2024 22:26:30 CET, Sean Turner wrote:
>> This is the working group last call for TLS 1.2 is in Feature
>> Freeze. Please review draft-ietf-tls-tls12-frozen [1] and reply
>> to this thread indicating if you think it is ready for
>> publication or not.  If you do not think it is ready please
>> indicate why.  This call will end on December 17, 2024.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> spt
>> 
>> [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-tls-tls12-frozen/
>  
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>  

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