Re: [TLS] Breaking into TLS to protect customers
Artyom Gavrichenkov <ximaera@gmail.com> Thu, 15 March 2018 03:34 UTC
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From: Artyom Gavrichenkov <ximaera@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 03:33:48 +0000
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Subject: Re: [TLS] Breaking into TLS to protect customers
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Are we going to discuss draft-fenter ad hoc, or we'll start a new thread dedicated to that? Because I strongly believe I also have some suggestions for that draft. ср, 14 мар. 2018 г., 23:30 Salz, Rich <rsalz@akamai.com>: > Some on this list have said that they need to break into TLS in order to > protect customers. > > > > The thing customers seem to need the most protection is having their > personal data stolen. It seems to happen with amazing and disappointing > regularity on astounding scales. Some examples include > > - retailer Target, presumably subject to PCI-DSS rules > - Anthem health insurance, presumably a regulated industry > - Equifax, a financial-business organization (but apparently not > regulated) > - Yahoo, a company created on and by and for the Internet (one would > think they know better) > > We could, of course, go on and on and on. > > > > NONE of those organizations are using TLS 1.3. > > > > So what kind of “protect the customer” requires breaking TLS? And what > benefits and increased protection will customers see? > > > > > _______________________________________________ > TLS mailing list > TLS@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls >
- [TLS] Breaking into TLS to protect customers Salz, Rich
- Re: [TLS] Breaking into TLS to protect customers Artyom Gavrichenkov
- Re: [TLS] Breaking into TLS to protect customers Yoav Nir
- Re: [TLS] Breaking into TLS to protect customers nalini elkins
- Re: [TLS] Breaking into TLS to protect customers Ion Larranaga Azcue
- Re: [TLS] Breaking into TLS to protect customers Salz, Rich
- Re: [TLS] Breaking into TLS to protect customers Kathleen Moriarty
- Re: [TLS] Breaking into TLS to protect customers Carl Mehner
- Re: [TLS] Breaking into TLS to protect customers Kathleen Moriarty
- Re: [TLS] Breaking into TLS to protect customers Ion Larranaga Azcue
- Re: [TLS] Breaking into TLS to protect customers Yoav Nir
- Re: [TLS] Breaking into TLS to protect customers Roland Zink
- Re: [TLS] Breaking into TLS to protect customers Ackermann, Michael
- Re: [TLS] Breaking into TLS to protect customers Darin Pettis
- Re: [TLS] Breaking into TLS to protect customers Eric Mill
- Re: [TLS] Breaking into TLS to protect customers Matthew Ford
- Re: [TLS] Breaking into TLS to protect customers Daniel Kahn Gillmor
- Re: [TLS] Breaking into TLS to protect customers Joseph Lorenzo Hall
- Re: [TLS] Breaking into TLS to protect customers Yoav Nir
- Re: [TLS] Breaking into TLS to protect customers Colm MacCárthaigh
- Re: [TLS] Breaking into TLS to protect customers R du Toit
- Re: [TLS] Breaking into TLS to protect customers Ryan Sleevi
- Re: [TLS] Breaking into TLS to protect customers Benjamin Kaduk
- Re: [TLS] Breaking into TLS to protect customers Benjamin Kaduk
- Re: [TLS] Breaking into TLS to protect customers Salz, Rich
- Re: [TLS] Breaking into TLS to protect customers Eric Mill
- Re: [TLS] Breaking into TLS to protect customers Benjamin Kaduk