Re: [TLS] draft-ietf-tls-tls13-21 posted

Ilari Liusvaara <ilariliusvaara@welho.com> Tue, 04 July 2017 13:09 UTC

Return-Path: <ilariliusvaara@welho.com>
X-Original-To: tls@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: tls@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FE27132073 for <tls@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 4 Jul 2017 06:09:40 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -1.901
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id O1-OtUnWyFlw for <tls@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 4 Jul 2017 06:09:38 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from welho-filter2.welho.com (welho-filter2.welho.com [83.102.41.24]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7891013206C for <tls@ietf.org>; Tue, 4 Jul 2017 06:09:37 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by welho-filter2.welho.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 905E933E0C; Tue, 4 Jul 2017 16:09:35 +0300 (EEST)
X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at pp.htv.fi
Received: from welho-smtp2.welho.com ([IPv6:::ffff:83.102.41.85]) by localhost (welho-filter2.welho.com [::ffff:83.102.41.24]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9-nfN_PdVKio; Tue, 4 Jul 2017 16:09:35 +0300 (EEST)
Received: from LK-Perkele-VII (87-92-19-27.bb.dnainternet.fi [87.92.19.27]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by welho-smtp2.welho.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4174227B; Tue, 4 Jul 2017 16:09:33 +0300 (EEST)
Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2017 16:09:33 +0300
From: Ilari Liusvaara <ilariliusvaara@welho.com>
To: Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>
Cc: "tls@ietf.org" <tls@ietf.org>
Message-ID: <20170704130933.t5easxgqaunbnzee@LK-Perkele-VII>
References: <CABcZeBN7vJXZJadNzPR5RbWwZpgM+NgjW7FvuJW+Q5cNUu6_FQ@mail.gmail.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Content-Disposition: inline
In-Reply-To: <CABcZeBN7vJXZJadNzPR5RbWwZpgM+NgjW7FvuJW+Q5cNUu6_FQ@mail.gmail.com>
User-Agent: NeoMutt/20170609 (1.8.3)
Sender: ilariliusvaara@welho.com
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tls/P-JX2t9EIIMtKd__8nd_KEEgxFQ>
Subject: Re: [TLS] draft-ietf-tls-tls13-21 posted
X-BeenThere: tls@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22
Precedence: list
List-Id: "This is the mailing list for the Transport Layer Security working group of the IETF." <tls.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/tls>, <mailto:tls-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/tls/>
List-Post: <mailto:tls@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:tls-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls>, <mailto:tls-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2017 13:09:40 -0000

On Mon, Jul 03, 2017 at 05:01:55PM -0700, Eric Rescorla wrote:

> I wanted to call the WG's attention to one issue:
> 
> Currently the extension table says that server_certificate_type goes
> in the Certificate message, whereas client_certificate_type does
> not. My reasoning for the latter is that the extensions are attached
> to individual certificate elements, so it was non-sensical to have a
> situation where you might have cert A be X.509 and cert B be PGP.  I
> think we should just change server_certificate_type to go in EE, and
> then maybe in future if people want something cleverer they can add it
> then. I didn't want to do this without WG discussion, but I think we
> should and if people don't object I'll do it in a -22.

The certificate type is certainly associated with the certificate
chain. However, it only makes sense for server certificate and there can
only be one such thing[1] and the data is small, so one could stick the
type in EE.


[1] Exported authenticators do not count, since the way those work is
rather different from usual TLS certificate authentication.


-Ilari