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Re: [TLS] Encrypted SNI hangout

Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> Mon, 13 November 2017 05:57 UTC

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From: Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2017 05:57:12 +0000
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To: Darin Pettis <dpp.edco@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [TLS] Encrypted SNI hangout
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I already have a conflict for this, so I will not be attending.

-Ekr


On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 3:57 AM, Darin Pettis <dpp.edco@gmail.com> wrote:

> Sean - thank you for the update and options on rooms.
>
> Ben and Brett - which room should we meet in?
>
> Initially opposed to encrypting SNI as it appears to break many services
> that utilize it but curious to hear more.   Thx
>
> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 9:17 AM Christian Huitema <huitema@huitema.net>
> wrote:
>
>> On 11/12/2017 4:54 PM, Sean Turner wrote:
>>
>> > Hi!  I applaud the initiative for suggesting the hangout [0].
>> Squatting in that room ought to be okay but in case the secretariat ends up
>> scheduling another IETF session in that room the 12 person room
>> (Butterworth) is still available during that time:
>> > https://www.ietf.org/registration/MeetingWiki/wiki/
>> doku.php?id=100sidemeetings2
>> > It can be scheduled through the following link:
>> > https://ietf.org/meeting/amreq.html
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> > spt
>> >
>> > [0] For those more process oriented folks, Ben and Bret correctly
>> identified this as a hangout.  it’s not a WG session that got canceled.
>> >
>>
>> The SNI Encryption draft is maintained on the TLS WG Github, at
>> https://github.com/tlswg/sniencryption. It would be really nice if after
>> or during the discussions someone opened issues and possibly PR.
>>
>> Thanks, and sorry I could not join you in Singapore
>>
>> -- Christian Huitema
>>
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