Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Requiring login for IPR disclosures (and other places where you can tweak bits in the datatracker)

Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com> Thu, 29 September 2016 18:42 UTC

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Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Requiring login for IPR disclosures (and other places where you can tweak bits in the datatracker)
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Robert,

I think this is a good idea for IPR submissions.  Seems to me we do want to know who made the submission.

Bob



> On Sep 29, 2016, at 11:35 AM, Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com> wrote:
> 
> All -
> 
> The secretariat brought to our attention that the IPR app is starting to accumulate a troublesome amount of spam submissions. The load isn't crushing yet, but we have no reason to expect it to not grow.
> 
> I think it's time to require login to use the forms there. Those folks not willing to create an account can fall back to sending email to the secretariat.
> 
> This is, of course, a big policy decision that our selected leadership needs to make. Ben, could you take this up with the IESG?
> 
> Generalizing this beyond the current smolder - I suggest it's time to take _any_ interaction with the datatracker that creates state to login required.
> 
> Is this a bad idea?
> 
> RjS
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