[Tools-discuss] Re: Reminder: Action required: Update to IETF Datatracker password requirements starting 8 July

[Toerless Eckert <[e-mail]>]

Ah! nice. Yes, by just accessing the lists anonymously, my MUA also doesn't
keep track of messages i have read. Seems with IMAP that's only done on the
server...

Cheers
    Toerless

On Tue, Jul 08, 2025 at 11:32:16AM -0400, Ken Murchison wrote:
> I login to imap.ietf.org with my datatracker credentials so I can subscribe
> to the lists that I care about and have the \Seen flag set on messages that
> I have read.  This allows me the same UX on multiple clients.
> 
> 
> On 7/8/25 11:18 AM, Toerless Eckert wrote:
> > Thanks for the reminder, Robert,...
> > 
> > One question: where and when would i need my account/password for IMAP ? (if at all).
> > 
> > Is that for folks with @ietf.org email accounts ? Not a participant/wgchair, right ?
> > 
> > I am using IMAP only to read lists:
> > 
> >    imaps://anonymous:<id>@imap.ietf.org/Shared Folders
> > 
> > Any other use of imap on ietf that i am missing out on ?
> > 
> > Cheers
> >      Toerless
> > 
> > On Tue, Jul 08, 2025 at 09:53:41AM -0500, Robert Sparks wrote:
> > > These password requirements are now in effect.
> > > 
> > > The IETF IMAP service uses your datatracker credentials, remember to change
> > > your password in your IMAP client after changing your datatracker password.
> > > 
> > > Also note that mailman3 (postorious) uses a different set of credentials and
> > > is not involved in this change.
> > > 
> > > RjS
> > > 
> > > On 7/1/25 3:07 PM, Robert Sparks wrote:
> > > > (also available at https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf-announce/Xy4PpQHnkZCLXQ4j8J3s2aWeDFc/)
> > > > 
> > > > Beginning with a Datatracker update scheduled for 8 July, after the I-D
> > > > submission deadline for IETF 123 Madrid has passed, passwords for the
> > > > IETF Datatracker will be required to have at least 12 characters and be
> > > > sufficiently complex.[1]
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > You should verify your password meets the new requirements using the
> > > > “New password” field on the change password form after logging in:
> > > > 
> > > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/accounts/password/
> > > > 
> > > > On that form, a complexity bar and text below the new password field
> > > > will provide guidance. When the bar is green, the password will be
> > > > accepted. If your current password does not meet the requirements,
> > > > please go through the password change process to set a new one that does
> > > > meet them. If you are not already logged into Datatracker, this process
> > > > requires confirmation via your primary Datatracker email address.
> > > > 
> > > > IMPORTANT: If you are already logged into the Datatracker, do not assume
> > > > that your password will continue to work without verifying it.
> > > > 
> > > > Especially if you plan to participate in IETF 123, you should verify
> > > > your password meets these requirements as soon as possible. Datatracker
> > > > login is required to join MeetEcho for meeting sessions, whether you are
> > > > participating in-person or remotely. Logging into the Datatracker well
> > > > before the meeting starts will help ensure you don’t encounter delays
> > > > when joining a meeting session for the first time.
> > > > 
> > > > If you are the chair of an IETF working group or IRTF research group,
> > > > please share this update with your group.
> > > > 
> > > > This change eases a future migration to an authentication system that
> > > > will allow for federated login, MFA, and passkeys. The new system also
> > > > will allow the authentication process used for various IETF-provided
> > > > services to be more robust.
> > > > 
> > > > Another reminder about this change will be sent shortly after the
> > > > Datatracker update is deployed on 8 July.
> > > > 
> > > > Robert Sparks
> > > > Senior Director of Information Technology for the IETF LLC
> > > > 
> > > > [1] zxcvbn is being used to determine complexity
> > > > (https://github.com/dropbox/zxcvbn)
> > > > 
> > > > 
> -- 
> Kenneth Murchison
> Senior Software Developer
> Fastmail US LLC
> IETF MailMaint Chair

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