Re: [Tools-discuss] [rfc-i] v3 transition and datatracker

Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com> Wed, 18 September 2019 15:28 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] [rfc-i] v3 transition and datatracker
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Hi Michael,

On 2019-09-18 16:48, Michael Richardson wrote:
> 
> One of the authors in CELLAR who is using XML v3 says:
> 
>>  I tried with FFV1 version 4 but don’t see a difference. At
>>  https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cellar-ffv1-v4/
>>  <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cellar-ffv1-v4/> in the XML
>>  link you can see the svg data in the XML but the HTML and PDF links show
>>  the ASCII art rather than the SVG and the <sourceblock> sections have
>>  their line returns stripped. So I don’t see any difference here since I
>>  last posted FFV1 version 0,1,3 on September 6th.
> 
> It seems that we ought to be generating the HTML and PDF from the v3 using
> XML2RFC directly rather than going XML->TXT->HTML{->PDF}.

Yes, agreed.

> This is no doubt because the DT still depends upon the tools.ietf page for
> HTML version.   As such, nobody can see the nicer versions of output.
> 
> What is the plan?
> (Is this work contracted somewhere?)

Not explicitly, but I'll add v3 conversion and a v3 html link in the next
datatracker release.


Best regards,

	Henrik