Re: [tram] [Tsv-art] Tsvart last call review of draft-ietf-tram-turnbis-25

Joe Touch <touch@strayalpha.com> Wed, 19 June 2019 14:43 UTC

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Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2019 07:42:58 -0700
Cc: Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com>, "tram@ietf.org" <tram@ietf.org>, Brandon Williams <brandon.williams@akamai.com>, "draft-ietf-tram-turnbis.all@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-tram-turnbis.all@ietf.org>, "tsv-art@ietf.org" <tsv-art@ietf.org>, "ietf@ietf.org" <ietf@ietf.org>
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To: "Konda, Tirumaleswar Reddy" <TirumaleswarReddy_Konda@McAfee.com>
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Subject: Re: [tram] [Tsv-art] Tsvart last call review of draft-ietf-tram-turnbis-25
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That text remains insufficient, e.g.:

> On Jun 19, 2019, at 7:30 AM, Konda, Tirumaleswar Reddy <TirumaleswarReddy_Konda@McAfee.com> wrote:
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> Hi Joe,
>  
> I have added the following line to address your other comment:
>  
> Note that the server does not perform per-packet translation for TCP-to-UDP relaying and vice-versa. For TCP-to-UDP relaying from client to peer, the TURN server sets the DF field in the outgoing UDP packet based on the presence of DONT-FRAGMENT attribute in the TURN message. For UDP-to-TCP relaying from peer to client, the TURN server sets IP header fields in the TCP packets on a per-connection basis for the TCP connection.

Which parameters? Based on what?

In addition, a mere note does not undo the implication of indicating each IP parameter (option, DF) separately as if there are always configurable per-TURN message.

Joe