[tsvwg] Re: UDP options [was IP Parcels and Advanced Jumbos (AJs)]
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Subject: [tsvwg] Re: UDP options [was IP Parcels and Advanced Jumbos (AJs)]
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> On Sep 27, 2024, at 8:02 PM, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote: > >> We COULD have a new option with a longer length, but that’s not in our baseline draft. > > Wouldn't that be tricky, because the options follow the whole payload as I understand it? So a JumboUDPgram has to be received in full, however big it is, before the option saying that it's a jumbo can be received and interpreted. I was assuming use of the atomic FRAG approach, in which the UDP length is 8 (not zero) and the options then appear immediately after the UDP header. > Where the udp-options draft says: > >>> The technique has been proposed for deprecation [Jo19]. > > I think you'd better change it to something like: > > The technique is known to be in active use in special situations, so cannot reasonably be deprecated. However, users of this technique cannot simultaneously use UDP options. Yes - we’ve already got that queued up as part of Gorry’s shepherd review. Joe
- [tsvwg] Re: [Int-area] IP Parcels and Advanced Ju… Templin (US), Fred L
- [tsvwg] Re: [Int-area] IP Parcels and Advanced Ju… touch@strayalpha.com
- [tsvwg] Re: [Int-area] Re: IP Parcels and Advance… Joe Touch
- [tsvwg] Re: [Int-area] Re: IP Parcels and Advance… C. M. Heard
- [tsvwg] Re: [Int-area] Re: IP Parcels and Advance… Gorry (erg)
- [tsvwg] Re: UDP options [was IP Parcels and Advan… Brian Carpenter
- [tsvwg] Re: UDP options [was IP Parcels and Advan… Brian E Carpenter
- [tsvwg] Re: [Int-area] Re: IP Parcels and Advance… Templin (US), Fred L
- [tsvwg] Re: UDP options [was IP Parcels and Advan… touch@strayalpha.com
- [tsvwg] Re: UDP options [was IP Parcels and Advan… Gorry (erg)
- [tsvwg] Re: UDP options [was IP Parcels and Advan… Templin (US), Fred L
- [tsvwg] Re: UDP options [was IP Parcels and Advan… C. M. Heard
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- [tsvwg] Re: UDP options [was IP Parcels and Advan… C. M. Heard
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- [tsvwg] Re: UDP options [was IP Parcels and Advan… Tom Herbert
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- [tsvwg] Re: [Int-area] Re: Re: UDP options [was I… Paul Vixie
- [tsvwg] Re: UDP options [was IP Parcels and Advan… C. M. Heard
- [tsvwg] Re: UDP options [was IP Parcels and Advan… Gorry Fairhurst
- [tsvwg] Re: UDP options [was IP Parcels and Advan… Templin (US), Fred L
- [tsvwg] Re: [IPv6]Re: Re: UDP options [was IP Par… Tom Herbert
- [tsvwg] Re: UDP options [was IP Parcels and Advan… Templin (US), Fred L
- [tsvwg] Re: [IPv6]Re: Re: UDP options [was IP Par… Tom Herbert
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- [tsvwg] Re: UDP options [was IP Parcels and Advan… Gorry Fairhurst
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- [tsvwg] Re: [IPv6]Re: Re: UDP options [was IP Par… Tom Herbert
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- [tsvwg] Re: UDP options [was IP Parcels and Advan… Tom Herbert
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