[tsvwg] Re: UDP options [was IP Parcels and Advanced Jumbos (AJs)]
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Subject: [tsvwg] Re: UDP options [was IP Parcels and Advanced Jumbos (AJs)]
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Hi, Lloyd, > On Nov 19, 2024, at 3:58 PM, lloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk <lloyd.wood=40yahoo.co.uk@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: > > ... > When UDP-Lite (RFC3828) was proposed, it was eventually shunted to its own IP protocol number, rather than risk messing up existing UDP implementations and semantics for even a very minor change. I gather that move to a different port was done very late in the process. It was proposed in the very first WG draft: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-udp-lite-00 Therefore, this draft proposes to allocate a new protocol identifier for UDP Lite. Even the Lars-Åke Lazon’s MS thesis from 1999 noted that it was not backwards compatible with legacy endpoint (in terms used in the UDP options draft). That’’s quite different from one of the original design goals of UDP options (see section 6 f the current doc). Then again, that’s also probably why Lite took only 2 years from draft to RFC, and options are approaching 10. Joe
- [tsvwg] Re: [Int-area] IP Parcels and Advanced Ju… Templin (US), Fred L
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- [tsvwg] Re: [Int-area] Re: IP Parcels and Advance… Joe Touch
- [tsvwg] Re: [Int-area] Re: IP Parcels and Advance… C. M. Heard
- [tsvwg] Re: [Int-area] Re: IP Parcels and Advance… Gorry (erg)
- [tsvwg] Re: UDP options [was IP Parcels and Advan… Brian Carpenter
- [tsvwg] Re: UDP options [was IP Parcels and Advan… Brian E Carpenter
- [tsvwg] Re: [Int-area] Re: IP Parcels and Advance… Templin (US), Fred L
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- [tsvwg] Re: UDP options [was IP Parcels and Advan… Gorry (erg)
- [tsvwg] Re: UDP options [was IP Parcels and Advan… Templin (US), Fred L
- [tsvwg] Re: UDP options [was IP Parcels and Advan… C. M. Heard
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- [tsvwg] Re: UDP options [was IP Parcels and Advan… Templin (US), Fred L
- [tsvwg] Re: UDP options [was IP Parcels and Advan… Templin (US), Fred L
- [tsvwg] Re: UDP options [was IP Parcels and Advan… C. M. Heard
- [tsvwg] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: UDP options [was IP Pa… Templin (US), Fred L
- [tsvwg] Re: UDP options [was IP Parcels and Advan… Templin (US), Fred L
- [tsvwg] Re: UDP options [was IP Parcels and Advan… C. M. Heard
- [tsvwg] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: UDP options [was I… Templin (US), Fred L
- [tsvwg] Re: [IPv6]Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: UDP opti… Tom Herbert
- [tsvwg] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: UDP options [was I… C. M. Heard
- [tsvwg] Re: UDP options [was IP Parcels and Advan… Tom Herbert
- [tsvwg] Re: UDP options [was IP Parcels and Advan… C. M. Heard
- [tsvwg] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: UDP options [was I… Templin (US), Fred L
- [tsvwg] Re: UDP options [was IP Parcels and Advan… Templin (US), Fred L
- [tsvwg] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: UDP options [was I… Tom Herbert
- [tsvwg] Re: UDP options [was IP Parcels and Advan… Templin (US), Fred L
- [tsvwg] Re: UDP options [was IP Parcels and Advan… Templin (US), Fred L
- [tsvwg] Re: UDP options [was IP Parcels and Advan… Templin (US), Fred L
- [tsvwg] Re: UDP options [was IP Parcels and Advan… C. M. Heard
- [tsvwg] Re: UDP options [was IP Parcels and Advan… touch@strayalpha.com
- [tsvwg] Re: UDP options [was IP Parcels and Advan… lloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk
- [tsvwg] Re: UDP options [was IP Parcels and Advan… Templin (US), Fred L
- [tsvwg] Re: UDP options [was IP Parcels and Advan… C. M. Heard
- [tsvwg] Re: UDP options [was IP Parcels and Advan… touch@strayalpha.com
- [tsvwg] Re: [Int-area] Re: Re: UDP options [was I… Paul Vixie
- [tsvwg] Re: UDP options [was IP Parcels and Advan… C. M. Heard
- [tsvwg] Re: UDP options [was IP Parcels and Advan… Gorry Fairhurst
- [tsvwg] Re: UDP options [was IP Parcels and Advan… Templin (US), Fred L
- [tsvwg] Re: [IPv6]Re: Re: UDP options [was IP Par… Tom Herbert
- [tsvwg] Re: UDP options [was IP Parcels and Advan… Templin (US), Fred L
- [tsvwg] Re: [IPv6]Re: Re: UDP options [was IP Par… Tom Herbert
- [tsvwg] Re: [IPv6]Re: Re: UDP options [was IP Par… Templin (US), Fred L
- [tsvwg] Re: UDP options [was IP Parcels and Advan… Gorry Fairhurst
- [tsvwg] Re: [IPv6]Re: Re: UDP options [was IP Par… Templin (US), Fred L
- [tsvwg] Re: [IPv6]Re: Re: UDP options [was IP Par… Tom Herbert
- [tsvwg] Re: [IPv6]Re: Re: UDP options [was IP Par… Templin (US), Fred L
- [tsvwg] Re: UDP options [was IP Parcels and Advan… Tom Herbert
- [tsvwg] Re: [IPv6]Re: Re: UDP options [was IP Par… C. M. Heard