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Re: [Tzdist-bis] draft-tzdist-geolocate Status and Next Steps

Daniel Migault <daniel.migault@ericsson.com> Wed, 24 October 2018 16:56 UTC

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From: Daniel Migault <daniel.migault@ericsson.com>
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 12:56:01 -0400
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Subject: Re: [Tzdist-bis] draft-tzdist-geolocate Status and Next Steps
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Hi Ken,

I agree, please see my comments.

Yours,
Daniel

On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 12:44 PM Ken Murchison <murch@fastmail.com> wrote:

>
> On 10/24/18 12:36 PM, Daniel Migault wrote:
> > I believe we could have a consensus on the next version, and start the
> > WGLC on November 5.
> >
> > Here is my view on the draft status.
> > * Maybe clarifying the scope of the draft. I believe that one sentence
> > could clearly mention the draft does not expect to go beyond a mobile
> > phone requesting the current TZ.
>
> Probably "mobile device" (not necessarily a phone), yes?
>
<mglt>yes ;-) I agree. </mglt>

>
> > * Raising a privacy issue and recommend of using the extension over
> > TLS or a protected channel.
>
> I believe privacy is discussed in the main TZDIST spec (RFC 7808,
> Section 8).  Is referencing this sufficient?
>
> <mglt>I think the security consideration is fine - my mistake.. I was
referring to the privacy section in fact. I would re-enforced in that
section the use of TLS (MUST) as the geolocalisation is in my point of view
present a higher degree of privacy than the data we dealt with in
RFC7808.</mglt>

>
> > * Having a discussion on whether we specify the time zones associated
> > to the point or not and how to do this. While this needs some
> > discussions, I believe we could converge rapidly.
>
> Agreed.  I'm open to any and all suggestions.
>
<mglt>I hope the WG will provide feed backs.</mglt>

>
> >
> > It would also be helpful to know if there are known implementations or
> > people planning to implement it. I hope this will be implemented soon!
>
> I have an implementation in the open source Cyrus Calendar server.  The
> examples in the draft where generated using that server.
>
>
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> Ken Murchison
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