Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-design-choices-10.txt

Philip Matthews <philip_matthews@magma.ca> Tue, 18 October 2016 02:37 UTC

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See inline.
-Philip

On 2016-10-17, at 16:34 , John Mann wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> On 15 October 2016 at 06:26, Philip Matthews <philip_matthews@magma.ca> wrote:
> Folks:
> 
> After a long delay due to demands of $DAYJOB, we are finally back to working on this I-D.
> 
> Here is a summary of the major changes:
> * Section 2.1 ("Addresses").  This section was very contentious in Yokohama (yes, it was that long ago ...). We have been discussing what to do with this, but have not come to any conclusions yet, so for now we have removed the old contents and just put "TBD".
> * Section 2.3 ("IGPs"). Some significant changes here. First, we added an IPv6-centric comparison of OSPF, IS-IS, and EIGRP.  We just list similarities and differences, without making recommendations. We think this helps give better context before we discuss our survey of what people have deployed.  We also added more facts around single-topology vs. multi-topology for IS-IS, and reworded the section discussing RIP and RIPng.
> 
> The discussion included, but the table excluded 
>    Use OSPFv3 running over IPv6 for routing both IPv4 and IPv6

Good catch. Thought we had included this ...

> 
> Is it worthwhile referencing RFC 7404
>   Using Only Link-Local Addressing inside an IPv6 Network
> as an example of the minimal amount of IPv6 interface configuration required to support an IGP?

This is discussed, with a ref to 7404, in section 2.2.2.
I am not totally happy with how we handle this discussion... it is a bit confusing.

> 
> * Various minor changes: updated the year, affiliation, etc.
> 
> > ietf-v6ops-host-addr-availability
> > Cerf, D. (sic)
> 
> Is now RFC 7934.
> 
> s/draft-ietf-v6ops-ula-usage-recommendations/draft-ietf-v6ops-ula-usage-considerations/

Thanks.  We need to update all our references.

> 
> Thanks,
>     John
> 
> We are still discussing what, if anything, we should say in the addressing section.  It is hard to say something here that is insightful without causing some people to take offense.
> 
> Comments welcome.
> 
> - Philip and Victor
> 
> 
> 
> On 2016-10-14, at 15:22 , Internet-Drafts@ietf.org wrote:
> 
> >
> > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
> > This draft is a work item of the IPv6 Operations of the IETF.
> >
> >        Title           : Some Design Choices for IPv6 Networks
> >        Authors         : Philip Matthews
> >                          Victor Kuarsingh
> >       Filename        : draft-ietf-v6ops-design-choices-10.txt
> >       Pages           : 22
> >       Date            : 2016-10-14
> >
> > Abstract:
> >   This document presents advice on certain routing-related design
> >   choices that arise when designing IPv6 networks (both dual-stack and
> >   IPv6-only).  The intended audience is someone designing an IPv6
> >   network who is knowledgeable about best current practices around IPv4
> >   network design, and wishes to learn the corresponding practices for
> >   IPv6.
> >
> >
> > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-v6ops-design-choices/
> >
> > There's also a htmlized version available at:
> > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-v6ops-design-choices-10
> >
> > A diff from the previous version is available at:
> > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-v6ops-design-choices-10
> >
> >
> > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission
> > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.
> >
> > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
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