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Re: [5gangip] FW: New Version Notification for draft-xyx-5gip-ps-00.txt

<Dirk.von-Hugo@telekom.de> Thu, 11 May 2017 09:44 UTC

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From: Dirk.von-Hugo@telekom.de
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Subject: Re: [5gangip] FW: New Version Notification for draft-xyx-5gip-ps-00.txt
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Dear all,
Exactly that is IMO the basic differentiator of 5G – to provide efficiently a service-specific logical network (slice) which fulfills the respective performance requirements – and very often this will result in an either-or: low latency or large data rate or high reliability …
Best Regards
Dirk
From: 5gangip [mailto:5gangip-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Lorenzo Colitti
Sent: Donnerstag, 11. Mai 2017 11:16
To: Mikael Abrahamsson
Cc: Tom Herbert; 5gangip@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [5gangip] FW: New Version Notification for draft-xyx-5gip-ps-00.txt

On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 11:10 PM, Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se<mailto:swmike@swm.pp.se>> wrote:
VoD traffic doesn't need 1ms handover times. Just because some other traffic needs 1ms failover/handover times, why should the VoD traffic be done in the same manner?

I think Mikael is right. A network that does 1ms handover times for all traffic is going to be way more expensive than one that only does it for 1% of traffic. Why do we want customers to have to pay for that?

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