RE: [69ATTENDEES] Networking at IETF meetings
"Ved Kafle" <kafle@nict.go.jp> Tue, 31 July 2007 09:39 UTC
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From: Ved Kafle <kafle@nict.go.jp>
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Subject: RE: [69ATTENDEES] Networking at IETF meetings
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The idea of having some volunteers for helping participants to meet each other is good. I had met some participants, specially from Asian countries, who wanted to meet other participants for some research discussions. But, they could not do that because of the following two possible reasons: First, they were shy to introduce themselves to others (in their home country, usually a third person introduces two persons.) Second, they were not quite sure whether the person they intended to meet would respond well when the responder was talking to others. We may think of such volunteering jobs as well. Ved -----Original Message----- From: Luigi Iannone [mailto:luigi.iannone@uclouvain.be] Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 6:13 PM To: Stephen Farrell Cc: Radia Perlman; 69attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [69ATTENDEES] Networking at IETF meetings As a newbie IMO a web page announcing a meeting point and a most likely target Pub/Restaurant will be a nice initiative. If there are volunteers, each evening someone can propose something different. Luigi Le 31-juil.-07 à 05:04, Stephen Farrell a écrit : As anti-social as I am (in absolute terms, relatively gregarious in IETF-terms:-), I think that Radia's is a great idea. Some of the best IETF evenings I've enjoyed have involved outrageously silly misunderstandings of some random person's opinions (incl. mine:-) - almost all of which have been far better than any $8 welcome-reception beer. I'd tweak Radia's suggestion to start from a booze-place from which expeditions to food could be launched, but basically an unabmiguous yes to willful dinner mingling at IETFs... (...so long as each diner is happy to appear silly. I can offer guidance: IMO, willingness to appear silly is the most common characteristic of IETF-folks to whom I personallly pay attention. They, and I, don't of course, always recall this:-) S. Radia Perlman wrote: One of the most valuable parts of an IETF meeting is meeting people you don't already know. Lunches and dinners are great opportunities for this. I notice, though, that there are a lot of shy people that either wind up eating alone, or with their colleagues. Some dinner groups actually want to be exclusive, because they are specifically there to talk about some arcane thing. But a lot of groups are happy to include others. I'd suggest that in future IETFs there be a canonical meeting place for groups of people that are happy to include other people, and that it be clear that if you see a group of IETF types hanging around that spot at approximately mealtimes, it is explicitly encouraged for people to wander up to groups and say "can I join you for dinner?" Snooty groups would be encouraged to gather someplace else. Radia _______________________________________________ 69ATTENDEES mailing list 69ATTENDEES@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/69attendees _______________________________________________ 69ATTENDEES mailing list 69ATTENDEES@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/69attendees Luigi Iannone luigi.iannone@uclouvain.be _______________________________________________ 69ATTENDEES mailing list 69ATTENDEES@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/69attendees
- [69ATTENDEES] Networking at IETF meetings Radia Perlman
- Re: [69ATTENDEES] Networking at IETF meetings Andy Bierman
- Re: [69ATTENDEES] Networking at IETF meetings Stephen Farrell
- Re: [69ATTENDEES] Networking at IETF meetings Luigi Iannone
- RE: [69ATTENDEES] Networking at IETF meetings Ved Kafle
- Re: [69ATTENDEES] Networking at IETF meetings Eric Burger
- RE: [69ATTENDEES] Networking at IETF meetings Stephen Hanna
- Re: [69ATTENDEES] Networking at IETF meetings Nicolas Williams
- RE: [69ATTENDEES] Networking at IETF meetings Stephen Hanna