Re: [6lo] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-toutain-6lo-local-extensions-00.txt
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Subject: Re: [6lo] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-toutain-6lo-local-extensions-00.txt
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From the draft: [RFC6554] defines in figure following encapsulation: +--------+---------+--------+-------------//-+ | Outer | Source | Inner | IPv6 | | IPv6 | Routing | IPv6 | Payload | | Header | Header | Header | | +--------+---------+--------+-------------//-+ <--- Original Packet ---> <--- Tunneled Packet ---> Figure 1: Packet tunneling Outer header carries LoWPAN IP addresses of a LOWPAN node and a border router and Inner header contains the source and destination. This encapsulation is sub-optimal since two IP headers are needed and the inner one cannot be compressed since Next Header in the Source Routing header contains the IPv6 protocol as defined in [rfc2460]; no reference to a 6LoWPAN dispatch is possible. I do not think that this is true. Section 4.2 of RFC6282 defines LOWPAN_NHC encodings specifically to handle this case. You can use them to encapsulate the routing header and then compress the inner IPv6 header. RFC6282 works well enough that the adding the outer header often increases the size of the compressed headers by only a few bytes. I worry about messing with RFC2460 in this way for the sake of those bytes. That outer IPv6 header is needed. For example, what happens to the hop limit if there is no outer IPv6 header? Does the inner header's hop limit get decremented? Also, section 4.1 of RFC6554 says: Using IPv6-in-IPv6 tunneling ensures that the delivered datagram remains unmodified and that ICMPv6 errors generated by an SRH are sent back to the router that generated the SRH. With no outer header, where do SRH ICMPv6 errors get sent? -Richard Kelsey ________________________________________ From: Laurent Toutain [Laurent.Toutain@telecom-bretagne.eu] Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 5:41 AM To: 6lo@ietf.org Subject: [6lo] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-toutain-6lo-local-extensions-00.txt Hi, I've submitted a draft on local extensions. The goal is to avoid IPv6 tunnelling in LoWPAN by introducing a new dispatch value which will describe IPv6 extensions. I would like to know if there is an interest from the working group for such approach and a possibility to present it at Toronto. Thanks Laurent ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: <internet-drafts@ietf.org<mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org>> Date: Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 11:12 AM Subject: New Version Notification for draft-toutain-6lo-local-extensions-00.txt To: Laurent Toutain <laurent.toutain@telecom-bretagne.eu<mailto:laurent.toutain@telecom-bretagne.eu>> A new version of I-D, draft-toutain-6lo-local-extensions-00.txt has been successfully submitted by Laurent Toutain and posted to the IETF repository. Name: draft-toutain-6lo-local-extensions Revision: 00 Title: 6LoWPAN Local Extensions Document date: 2014-06-27 Group: Individual Submission Pages: 5 URL: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-toutain-6lo-local-extensions-00.txt Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-toutain-6lo-local-extensions/ Htmlized: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-toutain-6lo-local-extensions-00 Abstract: [RFC2460] defines an extension mechanism to add functionalities to the basic IPv6 header. On LoWPAN networks, some extensions are required to extend routing capabilities. These specific extensions should not leak in the global internet. To optimize encapsulation, a 6LoWPAN dispatch to carry local extensions is defined. Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org<http://tools.ietf.org>. The IETF Secretariat -- Laurent Toutain +--- VoIP (recommended) ---+----------- Télécom Bretagne -----------+ | Tel: +33 2 30 96 6312 | Tel: + 33 2 99 12 7026 | Visit : | Mob: +33 6 800 75 900 | | | Fax: +33 2 22 06 8445 | Fax: +33 2 99 12 7030 | http://class.touta.in | Laurent@Touta.in | Laurent.Toutain@Telecom-Bretagne.eu | +--------------------------+----------------------------------------+ This email and any attachments may be confidential. If so, do not distribute or forward this email or any attachments without the sender’s authorization. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this email and notify the sender. Email transmissions cannot be guaranteed to be error-free or virus-free and Silicon Labs accepts no liability for such transmissions. Silicon Labs does not intend or authorize emails to act as legally binding contracts.
- [6lo] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-tou… Laurent Toutain
- Re: [6lo] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [6lo] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Richard Kelsey
- Re: [6lo] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [6lo] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Ulrich Herberg
- Re: [6lo] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [6lo] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [6lo] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [6lo] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [6lo] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [6lo] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Carsten Bormann