[6lo] Paul Wouters' No Objection on draft-ietf-6lo-use-cases-14: (with COMMENT)

Paul Wouters via Datatracker <noreply@ietf.org> Thu, 15 December 2022 01:44 UTC

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Subject: [6lo] Paul Wouters' No Objection on draft-ietf-6lo-use-cases-14: (with COMMENT)
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Paul Wouters has entered the following ballot position for
draft-ietf-6lo-use-cases-14: No Objection

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Like Roman, I am a bit concerned about the security aspects. As this is a use
cases document, I've limited my issues to comments. But it would have to be
satisfied in any further specification RFCs.

   Security and Encryption: Though 6LoWPAN basic specifications do not
   address security at the network layer, the assumption is that L2
   security must be present.

While I do understand that some L2 security is possible, eg via pairing, there
is still a gap for some technologies - eg NFC where I wouldn't know which
payment terminal I really connect to.

   End-to-end communication is expected to be secured by means of common
   mechanisms, such as IPsec, TLS/DTLS or object security [RFC8613].

EDHOC (draft-ietf-lake-edhoc) could also be a good match

Note that while the common mechanism is a good start, it only presents the use
of a technology. Those technologies have requirements that might not be usable
in the context of 6lo (eg when there is no internet connection to verify X.509
certificates (OCSP or CRLs) or DNS identifiers).