Re: [6lo] About the IID construction in 6lo-WBAN

"Houjianqiang (Derek)" <houjianqiang@huawei.com> Fri, 17 November 2017 14:39 UTC

From: "Houjianqiang (Derek)" <houjianqiang@huawei.com>
To: Dave Thaler <dthaler@microsoft.com>, "Rahul Arvind Jadhav (Rahul Arvind Jadhav, 2012 Labs)" <rahul.jadhav@huawei.com>
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Subject: Re: [6lo] About the IID construction in 6lo-WBAN
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Many thanks for your suggestion.

I didn’t mean to argue on the IID formation. I totally agree that privacy issues must be considered. Padding an 8-bit BAN ID together with an 8-bit short address is probably not private enough in many cases. We will reflect your comment in the next version.

Thanks,
Jianqiang Hou (Derek)

发件人: Dave Thaler [mailto:dthaler@microsoft.com]
发送时间: 2017年11月17日 14:21
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主题: RE: About the IID construction in 6lo-WBAN

Privacy is about making both predictability and correlation hard.
Padding an 8-bit short address results in easy predictability as there’s only 256 possibilities to probe in an address scan.
See RFC 8065 for more details on why this is bad.

Dave

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Subject: [6lo] About the IID construction in 6lo-WBAN

Hi Dave and Rahul,

Thanks for your valuable comments on the IID construction in 6lo-WBAN. Since I am one of the co-authors, it is my pleasure to provide more information of the current IID construction in this draft:

There are two kinds of nodes in a WBAN, namely BAN coordinator and BAN nodes (not sure whether I name them correctly). Each BAN coordinator holds an 8-bit BAN ID. BAN nodes need to associate with the BAN coordinator using MAC48 address, then the BAN coordinator allocates an 8-bit short address to each BAN node. When multiple BAN coordinators exist in a subnet, each BAN coordinator holds an unique BAN ID after negotiations. So, the BAN ID and the 8-bit node address are not built-in constant addresses in a WBAN device, and the current IID construction method in the draft guarantees its uniqueness inside a subnet.

Regards,
Jianqiang Hou (Derek)

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[6lo] About the IID construction in 6lo-WBAN Houjianqiang (Derek)
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