[6lowapp] Reliability Requirements in draft-shelby-6lowapp-coap-00
Andreas Scholz <scholza@in.tum.de> Mon, 08 February 2010 17:46 UTC
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Subject: [6lowapp] Reliability Requirements in draft-shelby-6lowapp-coap-00
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As a short introduction: I am writing my Ph.D. thesis in the area of constrained networks for control and automation. So I have a rather automation-oriented point of view on the requirements for an application protocol. I have a remark regarding REQ10 in the CoAP draft. It states "Reliability must be provided for application layer messages". I am not sure that really all application layer messages have to be transmitted reliably. Consider for example a temperature sensor that provides readings on a frequent basis, e.g., every second. Based on the application that uses this data, a loss of a single packet (or even a bursty loss of multiple messages) may be tolerable. I am thinking of an application that controls a heater, or a monitoring application. In fact a retransmission of lost messages might even be a problem if this delays the transmission of the newly acquired data values. On the other hand there a plenty of messages that have to be transmitted reliably. I think it is very difficult to find a general set of such requirements (and other QoS requirements such as latency etc) that is suitable for all applications running in a resource constained network. Because QoS requirements are typically application specific, the subscriptions could be a good location for specifiying such requirements. I am thinking about a subscription mechanism that allows a subscriber to not only specify the resource he is interested in, but also additional parameters such as reliability. This could also be an interesting way for switching between UDP and TCP based communication; a subscriber could specify that the data should be delivered via TCP instead of the default transmission via UDP. Based on such a subscription mechanism, a node would also be able to reject subscriptions based on the specified non-functional parameters. For example because it possesses no protocol that supports reliable message transmission, or because it has not enough free memory to support an additional reliable connection (which requires storing sent messages). Best regards Andreas -- Andreas Scholz Lehrstuhl Informatik III Tel. +49 89 289-17292 TU München, Zimmer 02.11.037 FMI andreas.scholz@in.tum.de Boltzmannstr. 3, 85748 Garching
- [6lowapp] Reliability Requirements in draft-shelb… Andreas Scholz
- Re: [6lowapp] Reliability Requirements in draft-s… Zach Shelby
- Re: [6lowapp] Reliability Requirements in draft-s… G. Clark
- Re: [6lowapp] Reliability Requirements in draft-s… Zach Shelby
- Re: [6lowapp] Reliability Requirements in draft-s… G. Clark