Re: [70ATTENDEES] Temperature

Thierry Ernst <thierry.ernst@inria.fr> Wed, 05 December 2007 19:17 UTC

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>> it's winter and we shouldn't wear tee shirts and sandals
> 
> Sorry, I'm from Europe, and I expect to be able to wear a shirt in a 
> meeting room.

In December ? Well, I do expect not to have to remove all my clothes 
when I get in a meeting room. We are not in private rooms.

> I'm seeing a number of people wearing heavy outdoor gear here in Salon 3.
> This is utterly ridiculous.

Less energy consumption helps protecting our planet. What is ridiculous 
in that ?

> The problem is not the temperature (which by itself is fine), but the 
> amount of airflow that is apparently needed to keep it low.
> US-style thermostats seem to try to keep the absolute temperature 
> constant, ignoring wind chill.
> Blowing lots of cold air at the 10 kW of human heating (plus laptops) in 
> this room is not saving any energy.

Constant temperature is non-sense as human body adapts to seasonal 
average (unless one never goes out).

I don't mind if people feel warm enough to wear tee-shirt, but wearing 
warm clothes in winter seems logical and at least rooms don't need to be 
overheat. Which is not only good for the environment for also for the 
quality of air.

Thierry
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