Re: [74attendees] IETF74 T-Shirt Art Donated to IETF Trust
Donald Eastlake <d3e3e3@gmail.com> Sat, 01 August 2009 20:47 UTC
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Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 16:46:40 -0400
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From: Donald Eastlake <d3e3e3@gmail.com>
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Just be sure they are labeled "Reprint". Donald ============================= Donald E. Eastlake 3rd +1-508-634-2066 (home) 155 Beaver Street Milford, MA 01757 USA d3e3e3@gmail.com On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 12:40 AM, James M. Polk<jmpolk@cisco.com> wrote: > This is a cool design, I agree. > > With that said, I think a discussion needs to occur on the devaluation of > the importance of what the shirt means - were it to be distributed to > any/many folks that did not attend an IETF. > > There have been several other cool designs from IETFs past, most notably is > the one that the IETF refused to have a shirt for (i.e., IETF47 in > Adelaide). I think that's still (for those who attended) the most popular > IETF shirt. I'll give Juniper credit (dare I? ;-) that this is a very > popular design. > > So, this is a choice between "how can the IETF get money?" vs. the purity > that those that have an IETF shirt actually went to that particular IETF > meeting. > > I realize this "purity" isn't really purity, given that I'm a rather large > man, and sometimes they don't have my size, so I get a size that fits my > wife or daughter. But the idea that there is one per paid attendee remains. > > I fear that advertising ("Joe's Bar/Grill & ISP") will become the next step > to gain revenue goals if we go down this path, but I might be being too > pessimistic... > > James > > BTW - I hate for this whole idea to devolve into this scenario -- the event > sponsor will sell the design of the shirt to the IETF, who might believe > they can earn more that it cost (sponsor fee plus COGS) in sales. > > At 02:49 AM 7/31/2009, Gregory M. Lebovitz wrote: >> >> I have been asked about this several times this week, so I'd like to >> clarify here for all. >> >> Juniper has donated the art for the highly popular IETF74 San Francisco >> T-shirt (brown, IPv6 World Tour, "concert" concept) to the IETF Trust. This >> was done because a) many people wanted to buy more of these shirts, b) the >> IETF expressed an interest in fulfilling those requests. >> >> We hope this art can be leveraged to spread the message about IPv6 >> transition broadly across the Internet community, in a fun and cool way . >> The ball is now in Ray (and team's) court. >> >> Hope it helps, and enjoy, >> the Juniper host team from IETF74 >> >> +++++++++++++++++++++++ >> IETF-related email from >> Gregory M. Lebovitz >> Juniper Networks >> g r e go r y d o t i e tf a t g m a i l do t c o m >> _______________________________________________ >> Ietf mailing list >> Ietf@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf >
- [74attendees] IETF74 T-Shirt Art Donated to IETF … Gregory M. Lebovitz
- Re: [74attendees] [75attendees] IETF74 T-Shirt Ar… Richard Barnes
- [74attendees] Réf. : Re: [75attendees] IETF74 T-S… cokotracy
- Re: [74attendees] [75attendees] IETF74 T-Shirt Ar… Marshall Eubanks
- Re: [74attendees] [75attendees] IETF74 T-Shirt Ar… Dave CROCKER
- Re: [74attendees] IETF74 T-Shirt Art Donated to I… James M. Polk
- Re: [74attendees] [75attendees] IETF74 T-Shirt Ar… Fred Baker
- Re: [74attendees] IETF74 T-Shirt Art Donated to I… Fred Baker
- Re: [74attendees] [75attendees] IETF74 T-Shirt Ar… Dave CROCKER
- Re: [74attendees] IETF74 T-Shirt Art Donated to I… Donald Eastlake
- Re: [74attendees] [75attendees] IETF74 T-Shirt Ar… Knight, Frederick
- Re: [74attendees] IETF74 T-Shirt Art Donated to I… Marshall Eubanks
- Re: [74attendees] [75attendees] IETF74 T-Shirt Ar… Randy Bush
- Re: [74attendees] [75attendees] IETF74 T-Shirt Ar… Phil Shafer
- Re: [74attendees] [75attendees] IETF74 T-Shirt Ar… Randy Bush
- Re: [74attendees] [75attendees] IETF74 T-Shirt Ar… Antonio M. Moreiras
- Re: [74attendees] [75attendees] IETF74 T-Shirt Ar… Jeffrey Hutzelman
- Re: [74attendees] [75attendees] IETF74 T-Shirt Ar… Phil Shafer
- Re: [74attendees] [75attendees] IETF74 T-Shirt Ar… Randy Bush
- Re: [74attendees] [75attendees] IETF74 T-Shirt Ar… Dave CROCKER
- Re: [74attendees] [75attendees] IETF74 T-Shirt Ar… Dave CROCKER
- Re: [74attendees] [75attendees] IETF74 T-Shirt Ar… Lloyd Wood