Re: [AAA-DOCTORS] Dan Romascanu's Discuss on draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-radius-ext-05: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
"Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" <dromasca@avaya.com> Thu, 11 August 2011 12:57 UTC
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From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" <dromasca@avaya.com>
To: Maglione Roberta <roberta.maglione@telecomitalia.it>, The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [AAA-DOCTORS] Dan Romascanu's Discuss on draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-radius-ext-05: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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Hi Roberta, Thank you for your timely answer. I will address part of your answers, and I am waiting for the original AAA Doctors reviewers to jump in for the other. See in-line. I edited out the items that I will not discuss in this mail. Regards, Dan > -----Original Message----- > From: Maglione Roberta [mailto:roberta.maglione@telecomitalia.it] > Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 3:39 PM > To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); The IESG > Cc: aaa-doctors@ietf.org; softwire-chairs@tools.ietf.org; draft-ietf- > softwire-dslite-radius-ext@tools.ietf.org; Ullio Mario > Subject: RE: Dan Romascanu's Discuss on draft-ietf-softwire-dslite- > radius-ext-05: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) > > Hello, > Please see answers inline [RM] > Thanks, > Regards, > Roberta > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dan Romascanu [mailto:dromasca@avaya.com] > Sent: giovedì 11 agosto 2011 11.16 > To: The IESG > Cc: aaa-doctors@ietf.org; softwire-chairs@tools.ietf.org; draft-ietf- > softwire-dslite-radius-ext@tools.ietf.org > Subject: Dan Romascanu's Discuss on draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-radius- > ext-05: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) > > Dan Romascanu has entered the following ballot position for > draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-radius-ext-05: Discuss > > When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all > email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this > introductory paragraph, however.) > > Please refer to http://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss- > criteria.html > for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > DISCUSS: > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > ... > > 3. Section 4.1 describes a NAS sending an Access-Accept to a RADIUS > server. Either this is a typo (e.g. it should say Access-Request) or > the authors are making a major change to the RADIUS protocol: > This attribute MAY be used in Access-Accept packets as a hint to the > RADIUS server; for example if the NAS is pre-configured with a > default tunnel name, this name MAY be inserted in the attribute. > The > RADIUS server MAY ignore the hint sent by the NAS and it MAY assign > a > different AFTR tunnel name. > > [RM] it's a typo, sorry I have fixed it in version -05 > > [[DR]] Fine. I am editing out this item. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > COMMENT: > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > 1. The use of kewords in section 3 seems inconsistent. Why are the > 'may' and 'shall' in the second paragraph of the section non- > capitalized, while in the rest of the section the keywords are > capitalized. > > [RM] I'm going to change them in this paragraph. > > > This list may also contain the AFTR Tunnel Name. When > the NAS receives a DHCPv6 client request containing the DS-Lite > tunnel Option, the NAS shall use the name returned in the RADIUS DS- > Lite-Tunnel-Name attribute to populate the DHCPv6 OPTION_AFTR_NAME > option in the DHCPv6 reply message. > [[DR]] I believe that the 'shall' needs to be capitalized, so that the editing is consistent with the rest of the section. Is there a special reason not to use SHALL? > 2. I support item #2 in David's DISCUSS about the need to document the > operational considerations of the NAS configuration and device > configuration changes. > > [RM] I tried to clarify this point in one of my previous emails, please > let me know if the explanation addresses your comment. > [[DR]] Not completely. This is still a configuration change, even if this is related to per-session/ per-users configuration/behavior. It is not clear to me how operators would know that such change occurred on the NAS. I will let David (holder of the DISCUSS) on this issue decide. > 3. Two of the AAA-Doctors made in early reviews the comment that it was > not clear why the authors needed a new AVP when the RADIUS tunnel > attributes (RFC2868) could probably be reused here. One of them even > proposed an alternative based on RFC2868 but authors argued that their > approach was better. that may be true, but it would have been good to > document the decision and explain why the alternative was rejected. > > [RM] When we first presented this draft in the RADEXT WG last year, the > document contained two different attributes one for the DS-Lite-Tunnel- > Name and another for the DS-Lite-Tunnel-Address, in order to match > exactly the two different DHCPv6 options proposed for the same purpose. > The idea to have a new AVP instead of re-using the one from RFC2868 > came up in order to have a 1:1 mapping between RADIUS AVPs and DHCPv6 > options. The reason behind this choice was to avoid having an extra > logic implemented on the NAS required to decide in which DHCPv6 option > inserting the value received from RADIUS AVP. > After a long discussion based on DHC WG feedback, the DHCPv6 option > related to AFTR address was removed from that document and only the > AFTR name DHCPv6 option was kept, thus we updated this draft according > to that decision. > [[DR]] Your explanation makes sense, but as I said in the comment the reasoning ... > The idea to have a new AVP instead of re-using the one from RFC2868 > came up in order to have a 1:1 mapping between RADIUS AVPs and DHCPv6 > options. The reason behind this choice was to avoid having an extra > logic implemented on the NAS required to decide in which DHCPv6 option > inserting the value received from RADIUS AVP. ... would be useful to be included in the document. > Thanks, > Regards, > Roberta
- [AAA-DOCTORS] Dan Romascanu's Discuss on draft-ie… Dan Romascanu
- [AAA-DOCTORS] Dan Romascanu's Discuss on draft-ie… Dan Romascanu
- Re: [AAA-DOCTORS] Dan Romascanu's Discuss on draf… Maglione Roberta
- Re: [AAA-DOCTORS] Dan Romascanu's Discuss on draf… Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- [AAA-DOCTORS] Dan Romascanu's Discuss on draft-ie… Dan Romascanu
- Re: [AAA-DOCTORS] Dan Romascanu's Discuss on draf… Maglione Roberta