Re: [Ace] Parameter abbreviation number ranges for draft-ietf-ace-oauth-authz

Jim Schaad <ietf@augustcellars.com> Wed, 29 August 2018 16:32 UTC

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From: Jim Schaad <ietf@augustcellars.com>
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Subject: Re: [Ace] Parameter abbreviation number ranges for draft-ietf-ace-oauth-authz
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We are doing all of this in response to a draft?  Why can you not fix the
draft and put the OAuth parameters in a sub map so there is no collisions?

Jim


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Jones <Michael.Jones@microsoft.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2018 9:45 AM
> To: Ludwig Seitz <ludwig.seitz@ri.se>; Samuel Erdtman <samuel@erdtman.se>;
> Jim Schaad <ietf@augustcellars.com>
> Cc: ace@ietf.org
> Subject: RE: [Ace] Parameter abbreviation number ranges for
draft-ietf-ace-
> oauth-authz
> 
> Especially in light of the possibility of signed requests along the lines
of
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-oauth-jwsreq-16, I believe that all
the ACE
> OAuth parameters should be registered as CWT claims.  I'll repeat my
request,
> wearing my designated expert hat, that application-specific values not be
> requested for registration in the one-byte ranges.  The one-byte values
should
> be saved for claims that are likely to span multiple kinds of
applications.
> 
> 				-- Mike
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ace <ace-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Ludwig Seitz
> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 11:44 PM
> To: Samuel Erdtman <samuel@erdtman.se>; Jim Schaad
> <ietf@augustcellars.com>
> Cc: ace@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [Ace] Parameter abbreviation number ranges for
draft-ietf-ace-
> oauth-authz
> 
> On 2018-08-27 18:39, Samuel Erdtman wrote:
> > +1 on pushing up error_description and error_uri
> >
> > I think client_id might be worth keeping low since it is often used
> > even when in combination with client_secret. See OAuth Mtls as an
example.
> > On Mon, 27 Aug 2018 at 18:20, Jim Schaad <ietf@augustcellars.com
> > <mailto:ietf@augustcellars.com>> wrote:
> >
> 
> Note that the 1 byte range is 0-23
> 
> Currently in the 1 byte uint range we have 20-23 left unused
> 
> We could start assigning negative integer values in the 1 byte range if
needed.
> 
> 
> /Ludwig
> 
> --
> Ludwig Seitz, PhD
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