Re: [Ace] [COSE] Call for adoption for draft-wahlstroem-ace-cbor-web-token-00

Ludwig Seitz <ludwig@sics.se> Mon, 11 April 2016 07:14 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Ace] [COSE] Call for adoption for draft-wahlstroem-ace-cbor-web-token-00
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On 2016-04-10 14:50, Justin Richer wrote:
> +1 for adoption, but please remove the "web" from the name.
>
> One of the main features of JSON Web Tokens, from which this is
> inspired, is that it can be passed without any additional encoding in
> HTTP headers, parameters, forms, strings, etc. It's built for the "web"
> from the ground up.
>
> The same is not true of the COSE-based token format here. It's designed
> for CoAP and other embedded systems that can speak the CBOR encoding
> natively. You could argue that this is the "web" in a sense but I think
> that it's misleading to implementors to claim such.
>
> Therefore I strongly encourage the authors and ACE WG to drop the "web"
> from the name, leaving simply the COSE Token.
>
>   -- Justin

+1 for making it just CBOR Token

/Ludwig
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