Re: [Acme] DNS-ACCOUNT-01 Updates

Antonios Chariton <daknob.mac@gmail.com> Fri, 12 May 2023 12:54 UTC

Return-Path: <daknob.mac@gmail.com>
X-Original-To: acme@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: acme@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62AA7C15109A for <acme@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 12 May 2023 05:54:25 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.098
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.098 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_ZEN_BLOCKED_OPENDNS=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([50.223.129.194]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PQ1dXnkJEhpL for <acme@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 12 May 2023 05:54:25 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mail-ed1-x52a.google.com (mail-ed1-x52a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::52a]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0644FC151095 for <acme@ietf.org>; Fri, 12 May 2023 05:54:25 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by mail-ed1-x52a.google.com with SMTP id 4fb4d7f45d1cf-50bdd7b229cso17872332a12.0 for <acme@ietf.org>; Fri, 12 May 2023 05:54:24 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1683896063; x=1686488063; h=message-id:in-reply-to:to:references:date:subject:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:from:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=lMp33OixEO/N1wNXRW0bzAATQNS/0nDHV9Z1Lv2/03Q=; b=W3bhbH7oj4MevsU4dGzS9D4iNtHU/3Gs3bIfM1LQG+TeaQE5On/qPwrkHNLJKva9kU H/IP+gbsFW02ZF5IsTVEKPSuCzeTWJKbpgvwxezEFZ0CDnWbrunz+QoeNFG6LuQNYhjn hjOSIN9lNOMpIFcPHJIvAH3Q+bI+VcOr3ZvbHJf/fSSQDBm8x9Z0MZ/iZbR58QvjWuph GJCYvdUYHuLt6eNQzw+1t3mfyYZWI6mAFZHza6UrYIcookNh7W5Fl9vXgSLiyzSen+FA d5feVlEm07Xq4hTk/nzhKm7FLo4E4F7DVtg2cSEZSWMEyrhDqc9caGafP8gf2vqGqq7D o1gQ==
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1683896063; x=1686488063; h=message-id:in-reply-to:to:references:date:subject:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:from:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=lMp33OixEO/N1wNXRW0bzAATQNS/0nDHV9Z1Lv2/03Q=; b=fsnpeajVEiXZ8uWwK7WwouuBuxsNu57O73O54V+nbL5pNCrozW8Fp028GN62VrY6mb bDjD7mstjfuZsyiKpDsRldCkxLE1hJ3aHk5qLQhRdOjML47evyqIIAynGDGYETc/Xhro 6yb6BuMrVt18L/KnUmCZDcVpPbO7BvOkTADMcUHnD4EIUUrBD6edaM4kgCBYSF2yz3d2 URewTNNE8yfoDyuCH6f72xq69FPamzZvr75bW3A9NM9IkqdTiiTpD7+WoISaMeGZHcHK Q0fWljb02N6xlojsliIxa5F45QtTupO/ygYbaWOLkudyxa0Bmwh7p1e27e4PvRluX9pd G+DA==
X-Gm-Message-State: AC+VfDwPzE34Wgm8G6CjTGgCXYsm6jGcvZTsIwbaVc+9JpV1gVCrY69h IUY/qLm/+/eHX2o87j11c7l6O5wgJmw=
X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACHHUZ5LyJGic7V4Jwt2FESko65qS9b6vYPwkfDIYbSthENY0UzEYlQMigFOJB7fpuz1Bth8pXQ0Zw==
X-Received: by 2002:a17:907:3e99:b0:969:93f2:259a with SMTP id hs25-20020a1709073e9900b0096993f2259amr14421343ejc.73.1683896063281; Fri, 12 May 2023 05:54:23 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from smtpclient.apple ([2a0d:3dc0:200:0:455a:d672:1867:73e2]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id v9-20020a170906380900b0094e1344ddfdsm5332202ejc.34.2023.05.12.05.54.22 for <acme@ietf.org> (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 12 May 2023 05:54:22 -0700 (PDT)
From: Antonios Chariton <daknob.mac@gmail.com>
X-Google-Original-From: Antonios Chariton <DaKnOb.MaC@gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3731.500.231\))
Date: Fri, 12 May 2023 14:54:12 +0200
References: <22209596-7C4D-42F4-9415-98F106047C33@gmail.com> <1baf7a61-b575-5a5e-9073-6effb3c1bf64@gmail.com>
To: IETF ACME <acme@ietf.org>
In-Reply-To: <1baf7a61-b575-5a5e-9073-6effb3c1bf64@gmail.com>
Message-Id: <0BA39422-F0F4-41CC-B302-24E6A1235786@gmail.com>
X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3731.500.231)
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/acme/vxtn6-tpHK6bDtAKZNhhmATEYs4>
Subject: Re: [Acme] DNS-ACCOUNT-01 Updates
X-BeenThere: acme@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.39
Precedence: list
List-Id: Automated Certificate Management Environment <acme.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/acme>, <mailto:acme-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/acme/>
List-Post: <mailto:acme@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:acme-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/acme>, <mailto:acme-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 May 2023 12:54:25 -0000


> On 12 May 2023, at 03:30, Melinda Shore <melinda.shore@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On 5/11/23 3:52 PM, Antonios Chariton wrote:
>> What do you think about the naming? Do you perceive “DNS-02” as an improved version, or as a second option? We are happy to rename this to DNS-02 and we have no plans of breaking any ACME server or client already using DNS-01 :)
> 
> For the exceedingly little it's worth, I've always thought of those
> integers as type labels rather than version numbers (I'm not sure
> that versioning challenges makes that much sense, given how their
> labels are conveyed by the protocol).  Let's say that this is named
> dns-02, then a problem is discovered with dns-01 that would cause it
> to be deprecated and a new new dns challenge is rolled out that is
> substantially similar, but called dns-03.  How is that actually a
> problem?
> 
> Melinda

Thanks for the e-mail Melinda. I also see it like that myself, and I don’t feel like there’s a problem. I’m happy to rename this to DNS-02 if there aren’t any objections.

Antonis