Re: [Add] draft-ietf-add-resolver-info-09

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CC: Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org>, "add@ietf.org" <add@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: [Add] draft-ietf-add-resolver-info-09
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Subject: Re: [Add] draft-ietf-add-resolver-info-09
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Hi Steffen, 

> By the way i am really not worth being noted for anything
> acknowledgeable regarding the work of this WG.  

FWIW, the ACK is specific to all those who commented on the specific RR formatting issue in the mailing list:

==
Thanks to Mark Andrews, Joe Abley, Paul Wouters, and Tim Wicinski for the discussion on the RR formatting rules
==

I just removed you from that list: https://github.com/boucadair/add-resolver-information/commit/10718504b0de570fc59ea1aedb729fac1ef032de

Cheers,
Med

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Add <add-bounces@ietf.org> De la part de Steffen Nurpmeso
> Envoyé : mardi 20 février 2024 20:30
> À : tirumal reddy <kondtir@gmail.com>
> Cc : Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org>; add@ietf.org
> Objet : Re: [Add] draft-ietf-add-resolver-info-09
> 
> tirumal reddy wrote in
>  <CAFpG3gd5GwSAoOs3SX2xWZyKVR7F5y-y1VxxbTmfooC4AWo5Mw@mail.gmail.com>:
>  |On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 at 06:02, Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org> wrote:
>  |> Why is it necessary to change the standard processing of queries
> for  |> RESINFO when we already have a signal (AA=1) about whether the
> answer  |> is coming from elsewhere or not ?
>  |
>  |It is introduced to handle a scenario where SUDN is used to discover
> the  |encrypted resolver, and if the discovered resolver does not
> support  |RESINFO, it will forward the query upstream. An attacker
> might provide a  |RESINFO response with AA=1. The proposed mechanism
> aims to help the client  |identify whether the response is coming from
> the discovered encrypted  |resolver.
> 
> By the way i am really not worth being noted for anything
> acknowledgeable regarding the work of this WG.  At all.
> If you have another iteration of the document, i would prefer if you
> would simply scratch my name from your work.
> It is solely your work, for sure.
> And the above is possibly very smart: my DNS work was two decades ago,
> and i could not even tell whether i have ever seen authority section
> entries being passed through or not.
> 
> My main topics are simplicity so small teams can still exist
> competetively as was true over two decades ago (ie, with knowing the
> entire picture, not by delegating to "trusted" external modules in
> uncounted numbers), when there were <3000 RFCs.
> 
> As such i very much appreciated RFC 8499, but i alone from my
> superficial out-of-interest reading have 17 DNS-related RFCs added
> locally since then, plus the draft of yours and whatever else from
> this WG.
> 
> And a different way to get the TLS trust (or, rather, use existing
> ways of various kind eg rpki, ikev2, or simply public keys as is done
> by DKIM (certificates are a bit larger, but with the TCP that is more
> and more needed per se, or QUIC; or even the permanent HTTP proxying
> of everything, that is "no problem")) away from CA pools, to DNS/TLS +
> DNSSEC zone records.  Thank you for that, too!
> 
> Ciao, and greetings from Germany,
> 
> --steffen
> |
> |Der Kragenbaer,                The moon bear,
> |der holt sich munter           he cheerfully and one by one
> |einen nach dem anderen runter  wa.ks himself off (By Robert
> Gernhardt)
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