Re: [Add] The ADD WG has placed draft-schwartz-svcb-dns in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued"
Ben Schwartz <bemasc@google.com> Tue, 28 September 2021 14:15 UTC
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2021 10:14:59 -0400
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Subject: Re: [Add] The ADD WG has placed draft-schwartz-svcb-dns in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued"
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On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 6:59 PM Brian Dickson <brian.peter.dickson@gmail.com> wrote: > I just read the companion drafts in ADD. > > I think my concerns would be mitigated with the following changes: > > - Explicitly limit the use case to recursive server(s) > - Change the binding to a different mnemonic/label that does not squat > on the "dns" label which may be more applicable to an authoritative server. > I'd suggest "resolver", as it is consistent with usage from the DNS > terminology RFC (but I haven't looked at that lately, so I may be > misremembering the terminology). > > As long as this does not eventually conflict with an SVCB binding for a > DNS authoritative server (something I'm working on in DNSOP), I think it > would be okay to adopt in ADD. > Hi Brian, The binding here is deliberately independent of recursive vs. authoritative roles. It is simply a binding for the DNS protocol. Recursive vs. authoritative is not strictly a property of a DNS server (or client); rather, it is a property of an individual message (RD=0/1, AA=0/1). In some cases, a single server may offer both functions, or they may be mixed in some fashion. For example, there is a draft currently under consideration in ADD [1] that uses a hybrid approach to identify resolvers that are also authoritative for certain domains. Also, many codebases combine stub, recursive, and authoritative functionality. Providing a unified mapping, independent of role, simplifies implementation by improving separation between transport setup and message contents. I'm not aware of any conflict between this draft and any of the active proposals in DNSOP or DPRIVE. However, if we discover a need for further SvcParams in some DNS use case, we can certainly define them, either in this document or a subsequent one. --Ben Schwartz [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-reddy-add-enterprise-split-dns-06 >
- [Add] The ADD WG has placed draft-schwartz-svcb-d… IETF Secretariat
- Re: [Add] The ADD WG has placed draft-schwartz-sv… Tommy Pauly
- Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] The ADD WG has placed draft-… Tommy Jensen
- Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] The ADD WG has placed draft-… Tommy Jensen
- Re: [Add] The ADD WG has placed draft-schwartz-sv… tirumal reddy
- Re: [Add] The ADD WG has placed draft-schwartz-sv… Paul Wouters
- Re: [Add] The ADD WG has placed draft-schwartz-sv… Ben Schwartz
- Re: [Add] The ADD WG has placed draft-schwartz-sv… Paul Wouters
- Re: [Add] The ADD WG has placed draft-schwartz-sv… Tim Wicinski
- Re: [Add] The ADD WG has placed draft-schwartz-sv… Daniel Migault
- Re: [Add] The ADD WG has placed draft-schwartz-sv… Peter van Dijk
- Re: [Add] The ADD WG has placed draft-schwartz-sv… Brian Dickson
- Re: [Add] The ADD WG has placed draft-schwartz-sv… Deen, Glenn
- Re: [Add] The ADD WG has placed draft-schwartz-sv… Brian Dickson
- Re: [Add] The ADD WG has placed draft-schwartz-sv… Ben Schwartz
- Re: [Add] The ADD WG has placed draft-schwartz-sv… Paul Hoffman