Re: [Add] Draft on deployment models for Internet infrastructure

Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com> Sun, 17 November 2019 03:34 UTC

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From: Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2019 19:34:22 -0800
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Subject: Re: [Add] Draft on deployment models for Internet infrastructure
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On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 7:20 PM Jari Arkko <jari.arkko@piuha.net> wrote:

> I also wanted to point people to a draft that talks about centralised and
> other deployment models. This draft is about a broader topic than the
> DNS, more generally about anything in the Internet infrastructure. But
> it is also applicable for DNS. Comments and other observations are
> again appreciated.
>
>
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-arkko-arch-infrastructure-centralisation-00

I've already read this draft, so I hope this response will not be viewed as
reflexive.

The idea that encrypted DNS will result in increased centralization is
unsubstantiated. For example, the way unencrypted DNS traffic enables
centralized surveillance at the network layer is well known even in
pop-science publications:

https://www.wired.com/2013/06/nsa-whistleblower-klein/

Encrypted DNS might change the locations of centralization. That is a
phenomenon that should be carefully studied, imho. It doesn't seem like a
structural weakness, but it could be neutral.

thanks,
Rob

[Add] Draft on deployment models for Internet inf… Jari Arkko
Re: [Add] Draft on deployment models for Internet… Rob Sayre
Re: [Add] Draft on deployment models for Internet… S Moonesamy
Re: [Add] Draft on deployment models for Internet… Vittorio Bertola
Re: [Add] Draft on deployment models for Internet… Andrew Campling
Re: [Add] Draft on deployment models for Internet… Andrew Campling
Re: [Add] Draft on deployment models for Internet… Rob Sayre
Re: [Add] Draft on deployment models for Internet… Paul Ebersman
Re: [Add] Draft on deployment models for Internet… Andrew Campling
Re: [Add] Draft on deployment models for Internet… Dave Lawrence
Re: [Add] Draft on deployment models for Internet… Jari Arkko
Re: [Add] Draft on deployment models for Internet… Livingood, Jason
Re: [Add] Draft on deployment models for Internet… Paul Wouters
Re: [Add] Draft on deployment models for Internet… Rob Sayre
Re: [Add] Draft on deployment models for Internet… Vittorio Bertola
Re: [Add] Draft on deployment models for Internet… S Moonesamy
Re: [Add] Draft on deployment models for Internet… Joe Abley
Re: [Add] Draft on deployment models for Internet… Glenn Deen
Re: [Add] Draft on deployment models for Internet… Joe Abley
Re: [Add] Draft on deployment models for Internet… Glenn Deen
Re: [Add] Draft on deployment models for Internet… Paul Ebersman
Re: [Add] Draft on deployment models for Internet… Andrew Campling
Re: [Add] Draft on deployment models for Internet… Alec Muffett
Re: [Add] Draft on deployment models for Internet… Vittorio Bertola
Re: [Add] Draft on deployment models for Internet… Alec Muffett