Re: [Add] New Version Notification for draft-schwartz-svcb-dns-00.txt

Eric Orth <ericorth@google.com> Fri, 07 August 2020 21:11 UTC

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From: Eric Orth <ericorth@google.com>
Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2020 17:10:46 -0400
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Subject: Re: [Add] New Version Notification for draft-schwartz-svcb-dns-00.txt
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I like the idea overall, but can you further explain the decision to use
dns: URIs to describe DNS servers? Seems a bit funky since that URI scheme
is designed for DNS data, not a DNS server.  What we want here seems to
match more with just the optional "authority" section of a dns: URI.

Do we need a new URI scheme for DNS servers? Wasn't there a recent proposal
for that?

On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 8:41 PM Ben Schwartz <bemasc=
40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

> Moving DPRIVE and DNSOP to BCC to avoid cross-posting.
>
> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 1:53 PM Ben Schwartz <bemasc@google.com
> <bemasc@google..com>> wrote:
>
>> Hi ADD and DPRIVE,
>>
>> I've noticed three recent drafts that propose to use the SVCB format:
>> draft-mglt-add-rdp, draft-tapril-ns2, and
>> draft-pauly-add-resolver-discovery.  These drafts, across multiple
>> working groups, consider distinct use cases and architectures, but they all
>> propose using SVCB (in very different ways) to convey information about a
>> DNS server that supports encrypted transport.
>>
>> In the interest of harmonizing these proposals, creating a solid
>> foundation, and separating concerns, I've written a short draft that
>> specifies _only_ a minimal SVCB mapping for DNS URIs*, and does not address
>> any specific use case.
>>
>> I hope this draft can enable each of these proposals to focus more on
>> their goals, and worry less about the SVCB encoding.  (It also serves as an
>> interesting test of the SVCB design.)
>>
>> Please review,
>> Ben Schwartz
>>
>> *SVCB is based on URIs like https://, so for a DNS mapping we start with
>> dns:// URIs.
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>> From: <internet-drafts@ietf.org>
>> Date: Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 1:38 PM
>> Subject: New Version Notification for draft-schwartz-svcb-dns-00.txt
>> To: Benjamin Schwartz <bemasc@google.com>
>>
>>
>>
>> A new version of I-D, draft-schwartz-svcb-dns-00.txt
>> has been successfully submitted by Benjamin Schwartz and posted to the
>> IETF repository.
>>
>> Name:           draft-schwartz-svcb-dns
>> Revision:       00
>> Title:          Service Binding Mapping for DNS URIs
>> Document date:  2020-08-04
>> Group:          Individual Submission
>> Pages:          8
>> URL:
>> https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-schwartz-svcb-dns-00.txt
>> Status:         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-schwartz-svcb-dns/
>> Htmlized:       https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-schwartz-svcb-dns-00
>> Htmlized:
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-schwartz-svcb-dns
>>
>>
>> Abstract:
>>    The SVCB DNS record type expresses a bound collection of endpoint
>>    metadata, for use when establishing a connection to a named service.
>>    DNS itself can be such a service, when the server is identified by a
>>    hostname in a "dns:" URI.  This document provides the SVCB mapping
>>    for name-based DNS URIs, allowing DNS servers to indicate support for
>>    new transport protocols.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of
>> submission
>> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.
>>
>> The IETF Secretariat
>>
>>
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