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Re: [Add] FW: New Version Notification for draft-hal-adot-operational-considerations-00.txt

"Hollenbeck, Scott" <shollenbeck@verisign.com> Tue, 09 July 2019 11:12 UTC

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From: "Hollenbeck, Scott" <shollenbeck@verisign.com>
To: "stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie" <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>, "khenderson=40verisign.com@dmarc.ietf.org" <khenderson=40verisign.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, "add@ietf.org" <add@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Add] FW: New Version Notification for draft-hal-adot-operational-considerations-00.txt
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Subject: Re: [Add] FW: New Version Notification for draft-hal-adot-operational-considerations-00.txt
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Add <add-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Stephen Farrell
> Sent: Monday, July 8, 2019 3:39 PM
> To: Henderson, Karl <khenderson=40verisign.com@dmarc.ietf.org>;
> add@ietf.org
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Add] FW: New Version Notification for draft-hal-
> adot-operational-considerations-00.txt
>
>
> Hiya,
>
> On 08/07/2019 19:57, Henderson, Karl wrote:
> > First version of a proposal for Authoritative DNS over TLS Operational
> > Considerations. The authors welcome review and feedback.
>
> A few comments:
>
> - I'm not clear what there is related to applications doing DNS. Calling for
> detailed and thorough exploration of the effects of turning on TLS between
> recursive and authoritative servers makes perfect sense and is something
> that has been absolutely uncontroversial in the dprive WG, which is already
> chartered to look at exactly that.

This is on me. Karl asked me where to send his note, and I advised him to send it to the ADD list based on the instructions that Barry Leiba sent to the DPRIVE list on 8 April:

https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dns-privacy/0xrDBJvU7dZBcjjFn3NiiGQ17No

"A mailing list has been created for the ongoing discussion of issues with DNS over HTTPS, DNS over TLS, implementation choices for those, application usage, operational concerns, privacy concerns, performance concerns, and any other such.  Please take all that related discussion to the new list and please stop discussing it on DOH, DPRIVE, DNSOP, and any other lists — that will keep the related discussion in one place, and avoid fragmenting it and having people repeat themselves because of the fragmentation.

The new list is called ADD — Applications Doing DNS:"

So where should the discussion take place?

Scott

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