Re: [Alldispatch] Proposed discussion topic for ALLDISPATCH: draft-bray-unichars
Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> Sat, 02 March 2024 02:18 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Alldispatch] Proposed discussion topic for ALLDISPATCH: draft-bray-unichars
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I wrote a draft addressing the same problem area a while ago. Most of the discussion happened in 2019. I believe this draft is a much better document to use for the purpose listed below, and for use in the actual design phase of a protocol that uses text in various forms. https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-bormann-dispatch-modern-network-unicode-04.html So if we discuss draft-bray-unichars, I believe we also should discuss this document. Grüße, Carsten > On Mar 2, 2024, at 00:59, Tim Bray <tbray@textuality.com> wrote: > > Paul Hoffman and I would like to request ALLDISPATCH input on draft-bray-unichars-07: https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-bray-unichars-07.html > The goal of this draft is: > • > When someone submits an I-D that mentions Unicode, at least one reviewer says “you need to think about character repertoires, go check out [Unichars].” > • When they’ve thought about it and figured out which character repertoire they like, they have a convenient reference-able document that explains the issues and includes ABNF for that repertoire. > > This fell out of a conversation originally provoked by an errata report, https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid7603 - which revealed a distressing lack of consensus about Unicode characters and code points and character repertoires. I feel personally bad because I am the editor of a couple of documents that are open to criticism on this front. > > Per recommendations from ADs Francesca Palombini and Murray Kucherawy, we took the -00 draft to ie18ndir@ and art@ and had really outstanding high-energy feedback that got us to the -07 draft. Here are some of the threads: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/i18ndir/ and https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/art/?qdr=y&q=unichars > I would estimate that this draft has already enjoyed a level of discussion that would be about what you’d expect for a similarly-small draft in a typical Working Group. > > We can see a variety of paths forward for this draft and ALLDISPATCH seems a good place to explore those options. > > -- > Alldispatch mailing list > Alldispatch@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/alldispatch
- [Alldispatch] Proposed discussion topic for ALLDI… Tim Bray
- Re: [Alldispatch] Proposed discussion topic for A… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Alldispatch] Proposed discussion topic for A… Tim Bray
- Re: [Alldispatch] Proposed discussion topic for A… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Alldispatch] Proposed discussion topic for A… Michael Richardson
- Re: [Alldispatch] Proposed discussion topic for A… Tim Bray
- Re: [Alldispatch] Proposed discussion topic for A… Rob Wilton (rwilton)
- Re: [Alldispatch] Proposed discussion topic for A… Tim Bray
- Re: [Alldispatch] Proposed discussion topic for A… Rob Wilton (rwilton)
- Re: [Alldispatch] Proposed discussion topic for A… Tim Bray
- Re: [Alldispatch] Proposed discussion topic for A… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Alldispatch] Proposed discussion topic for A… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Alldispatch] Proposed discussion topic for A… Tim Bray
- Re: [Alldispatch] Proposed discussion topic for A… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Alldispatch] Proposed discussion topic for A… Paul Hoffman