[alto] IETF ALTO 118 side meeting on exposure of network and compute information for edge computing

Jordi Ros Giralt <jros@qti.qualcomm.com> Tue, 31 October 2023 22:36 UTC

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Hi CATS/OPSAWG/ALTO/IPPM/BMWG WG mailing list members:


We are going to have a side meeting to discuss "exposure of network and compute information for edge computing applications":

  *   Side meeting wiki: https://wiki.ietf.org/en/meeting/118/sidemeetings#Wednesday
  *   Topic: Edge computing
  *   When: Wed Nov 8, 15:30 -17:00,
  *   Where: Karlin 4


As the industry has reached peak computational centralization, compute needs communication to scale through distributed computing. There is a need to have a forum to discuss how the two sides of the same coin (compute and communication) can be exposed to the application to make efficient service placement and selection decisions. This is especially important at the edge of the network, where services such as distributed AI, XR/VR, vehicle networks (V2X), etc. need this compute and communication information to be efficiently deployed and managed. Exposed information should also account for the application footprint reaching out to cellular networks and for trust capabilities exposure.



The session will include talks on the following topics. If you are interested in presenting an additional related topic, please reach out to us by replying to this e-mail no later than Sunday Nov 5th.


Side meeting presentations/topics:

  *   Compute information exposure for service placement and selection.
  *   Cellular information exposure to Internet applications.
  *   Security information exposure for trust modeling and measurement.
  *   Southbound mechanisms to obtain network and compute information.
  *   Summary of conversations: key points and discussion of next steps.


Thanks,

Jordi

On behalf of this side meeting's organizers